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post Mar 23, 2006 - 9:12 AM
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This interest is sparked by the fact that a good buddy of mine recently ran a 13.6@105 in his 05 GTO and is racing to get a set of headers and exhaust system for his car before our swap is complete because, in his words, "I will not have my car beat by that little Celica."

Which got me to thinking. Stock SRT-4 Neon's put out about 230 to the wheels. Turn (normally) mid 14's to upper mid 13's depending on the driver. From what Dr. Tweak is saying, our Celica should be in the 250-260 WHP range when we pick it up. I consider myself a good driver by any and all means, and given that the Celi only weighs about 2600-2700 lbs, should be able to turn a decent time.

What kind of times (if any) have you swap guys turned at the track??

Another thought I had is throwing some drag radials on the stock 15x7 wheels, but then it occured to me that it would probably be a littel better to plop a wider wheel (still a 15 or 16, just with an 8" width) on there for a better contact patch. Granted, I'm running a stock GT 5 speed and stock half-shafts up front, but what will they take in terms of abuse???

Just wondering. I know I said the car isn't going to see the track, but hey, I've got racing in my blood.


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post Mar 24, 2006 - 1:15 AM
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Fastbird, The only things I had where 10lbs FW, turbo back 3inch exhaust, and my W/A intercooler. The suspension was stiffened up quite a bit. Which helps a ton.

My advice, forget all these after market parts. Buy just one a ct27. It will put you right where you want to be. And it will probably save you a little money while your at it. Also in the long run you'll have less things to trouble shoot later on.

And one question. Why not do the swap yourself ? You seem very knowlagable with mechanics. Doing the swap yourself will teach you everything about your car.

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post Mar 24, 2006 - 6:25 AM
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QUOTE(defgeph @ Mar 24, 2006 - 1:15 AM) [snapback]412312[/snapback]

Fastbird, The only things I had where 10lbs FW, turbo back 3inch exhaust, and my W/A intercooler. The suspension was stiffened up quite a bit. Which helps a ton.

My advice, forget all these after market parts. Buy just one a ct27. It will put you right where you want to be. And it will probably save you a little money while your at it. Also in the long run you'll have less things to trouble shoot later on.

And one question. Why not do the swap yourself ? You seem very knowlagable with mechanics. Doing the swap yourself will teach you everything about your car.

GL


The CT27 is what I've been looking at, but that's going to be a down the road thing. ATS has definitely put together a nice package with that turbo.

I'm not doing the swap myself mainly because of how unfamiliar I am with turbo cars but more importantly, my amazing lack of electrical ability. I just don't trust myself doing a wiring harness, and yeah, I know I could have just sourced that out, but what you guys don't know is that I've got the midas touch, only I make things go poopie. biggrin.gif I just have rotten luck at times, not to mention that with the motor build for my Trans Am I just don't have time for another project for myself to work on. Once the car is in my hands...that's another story. I'll have something to tinker with bit by bit and not something so daunting staring at me.

It's not that I'm so concerned with straight line traction I've got two 93 Trans Am's for that fix (heck, I've got a build in progress on my 93 Trans Am right now that we're shooting for single digits and 140+ trap speeds with on a full interior and air conditioning car), but I think it would be cool to say that "Hey, I took this stock unassuming Celica, had some work done, and lookie now as I blast through a low 13 run.


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- Fastbird   Swap Guys, Track Times   Mar 23, 2006 - 9:12 AM
- - jgreening   QUOTE(Fastbird @ Mar 23, 2006 - 8:12...   Mar 23, 2006 - 9:15 AM
- - celicaST   ^250-260whp? not with the stock turbo. are you usi...   Mar 23, 2006 - 9:29 AM
- - Fastbird   I'm just quoting what Dr. Tweak told me. Gott...   Mar 23, 2006 - 9:44 AM
- - bigal004321   i am saying that you will hit a 14.4,,,mainly beca...   Mar 23, 2006 - 10:09 AM
- - defgeph   You'll never see those numbers with a smt-6 ru...   Mar 23, 2006 - 11:19 AM
- - Dr_Tweak   You guys are such a bunch of haters According to...   Mar 23, 2006 - 12:05 PM
- - Fastbird   Just so you guys know, Doc and I were having a mis...   Mar 23, 2006 - 1:05 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(Fastbird @ Mar 23, 2006 - 12:0...   Mar 23, 2006 - 3:23 PM
|- - Fastbird   QUOTE(jgreening @ Mar 23, 2006 - 3:2...   Mar 23, 2006 - 3:35 PM
- - Kadett   We have a guy here with a JDM GT-4 boosting at 1,2...   Mar 23, 2006 - 1:14 PM
- - bigal004321   I am not trying to hate though i am trying to be r...   Mar 23, 2006 - 1:23 PM
- - scothaniel   QUOTEWe have a guy here with a JDM GT-4 boosting a...   Mar 23, 2006 - 1:27 PM
- - lagos   yeah you can make 250hp... at the crank ! its...   Mar 23, 2006 - 1:40 PM
- - Fastbird   We'll see what happens everyone. I don't ...   Mar 23, 2006 - 2:25 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(Fastbird @ Mar 23, 2006 - 3:35...   Mar 23, 2006 - 3:46 PM
- - afroman   *edit * Why cant i read and type faster damn you a...   Mar 23, 2006 - 3:54 PM
- - pure_dx   yeah, most people will just say HP, with no W in f...   Mar 23, 2006 - 7:52 PM
- - Fastbird   Sorry about all the confusion. I am mainly a rear...   Mar 23, 2006 - 8:01 PM
- - recneps   Mmina_XXX was the only member i knew of to take a ...   Mar 23, 2006 - 10:15 PM
- - Akimbo   Ugh. Pwned by FWD again   Mar 23, 2006 - 10:23 PM
- - brianforster   track times arent everything i think if you want...   Mar 23, 2006 - 11:16 PM
- - Digndoug   QUOTE(brianforster @ Mar 23, 2006 - 11...   Mar 23, 2006 - 11:30 PM
- - nate95   theres no way a stock 3sgte is only running a 15.7...   Mar 24, 2006 - 12:52 AM
- - defgeph   Fastbird, The only things I had where 10lbs FW, tu...   Mar 24, 2006 - 1:15 AM
|- - Fastbird   QUOTE(defgeph @ Mar 24, 2006 - 1:15 ...   Mar 24, 2006 - 6:25 AM
- - scothaniel   QUOTEi think if you want fast in a straight line, ...   Mar 24, 2006 - 1:18 AM
- - bigal004321   there is no way a stock celica st run a 16 flat......   Mar 24, 2006 - 2:35 AM
|- - Rjb23   QUOTE(bigal004321 @ Mar 24, 2006 - 7...   Mar 24, 2006 - 9:20 AM
- - presure2   i think with GOOD tires, and a proper launch, mid ...   Mar 24, 2006 - 7:00 AM
- - Fastbird   Well, my aim for the traction issues is going to b...   Mar 24, 2006 - 7:58 AM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   My very-tired, old, dirty whore of a 5SFE only ran...   Mar 24, 2006 - 10:32 AM
- - Fastbird   You guys also have to remember that my car is goin...   Mar 24, 2006 - 10:55 AM
- - defgeph   I'll give you some of my experience. My car @...   Mar 24, 2006 - 11:14 AM
- - Fastbird   Exactly why I'm looking into a drag radial or ...   Mar 24, 2006 - 11:22 AM
|- - defgeph   QUOTE(Fastbird @ Mar 24, 2006 - 11:2...   Mar 24, 2006 - 11:38 AM
|- - Fastbird   QUOTE(defgeph @ Mar 24, 2006 - 11:38...   Mar 24, 2006 - 12:10 PM
|- - defgeph   QUOTE(Fastbird @ Mar 24, 2006 - 12:1...   Mar 24, 2006 - 5:01 PM
- - Rjb23   Stock tires are 15 x 6 at best not 15 x 7   Mar 24, 2006 - 11:37 AM
- - DG_Performance   My celica ran a 14.1 on 14-15 psi. @ 100mph stock...   Mar 24, 2006 - 11:56 AM
- - Kadett   In order to get as much traction as possible I wil...   Mar 24, 2006 - 12:15 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(Kadett @ Mar 24, 2006 - 11:15 ...   Mar 24, 2006 - 12:44 PM
- - Kadett   1000 Dollars. If so it would already be on the car...   Mar 24, 2006 - 12:53 PM
- - nate95   My ST isn't stock.. and WILL run a 16sec. 1/4@...   Mar 24, 2006 - 5:04 PM
|- - Rjb23   QUOTE(nate95 @ Mar 24, 2006 - 10:04 ...   Mar 24, 2006 - 5:27 PM
- - nate95   well its happenin   Mar 24, 2006 - 7:28 PM
- - yungazzdriver   yeah i believe this guy because i ran high 16...   Mar 24, 2006 - 11:21 PM
- - dans_st   I ran a 16.7 on my ST with a CAI,MSD SCI+,2.5...   Mar 25, 2006 - 1:30 AM
- - Rjb23   Produce some time slips and we will believe you.   Mar 25, 2006 - 12:08 PM
- - bigal004321   A Stock ST celica runs mid 17's at best stock....   Mar 25, 2006 - 12:33 PM
- - defgeph   Guys this thread is about swapped Celica track tim...   Mar 25, 2006 - 12:48 PM
- - zipstrips   i was at the strip last weekend, 2nd gen sway, 3...   Mar 27, 2006 - 7:08 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   QUOTE(zipstrips @ Mar 27, 2006 - 9:0...   Mar 27, 2006 - 8:07 PM
- - yungazzdriver   hahahahaha well for all of yall that said a stock ...   Apr 1, 2006 - 2:00 AM
- - nate95   HAHA finaly some can prove it can be true!...   Apr 1, 2006 - 2:50 AM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(nate95 @ Apr 1, 2006 - 7:50 AM...   Apr 1, 2006 - 5:42 PM
- - brianforster   a 16.68 and a 16 flat are way different. but that...   Apr 1, 2006 - 6:25 AM
- - Rjb23   LOL you can't even read it, looked more like 1...   Apr 1, 2006 - 3:58 PM
- - nate95   you guys aren't happy with anything.. i have ...   Apr 2, 2006 - 12:56 AM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(nate95 @ Apr 2, 2006 - 5:56 AM...   Apr 2, 2006 - 1:20 AM
- - yungazzdriver   QUOTE(Rjb23 @ Apr 1, 2006 - 3:58 PM)...   Apr 2, 2006 - 1:16 AM
- - Kodak   Congrats I on running 16's!!! Whe...   Apr 2, 2006 - 1:33 AM
- - presure2   again, this is thread about SWAPED car times. NOT ...   Apr 2, 2006 - 6:14 AM


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