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post Apr 26, 2006 - 1:56 PM
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Basically, I will be swapping soon (end of summer hopefully) and I want to know if it's worth it to go with the E153 Tranny, or any other LSD combo? For you guys using just the GT tranny, do you get much 1 wheel-peel? I'll have Dr Tweak do the swap, I just want to know if it's with the extra $1200-$1750.

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post Apr 26, 2006 - 2:41 PM
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i dont really have a lot of torque steer with these tires. i did with my old ones. but yeah, lsd will help you not have torque steer issues.

i agree with what jay said about planing out your power level 1st, except that i don agree on the number he posted. i think as long as you stay under 300hp, youll be just fine with the stock GT tranny .

now here is something a lot of people dont think about. once you have a turbo car, and realize how easy it is to make more power, youll have a serious addiction. you will never feel like you have enough power. so if its in your budget, you might as well have a tranny in there, that you know will be able to hold 300+ hp without any problems.


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post Apr 26, 2006 - 6:47 PM
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QUOTE(lagos @ Apr 26, 2006 - 2:41 PM) [snapback]426815[/snapback]

i dont really have a lot of torque steer with these tires. i did with my old ones. but yeah, lsd will help you not have torque steer issues.

i agree with what jay said about planing out your power level 1st, except that i don agree on the number he posted. i think as long as you stay under 300hp, youll be just fine with the stock GT tranny .

now here is something a lot of people dont think about. once you have a turbo car, and realize how easy it is to make more power, youll have a serious addiction. you will never feel like you have enough power. so if its in your budget, you might as well have a tranny in there, that you know will be able to hold 300+ hp without any problems.


Art, you and I agree on most things, this topic included. I think its fair to say that driving habits probably have more to do with this issue rather than the precise horsepower output of the car.

With that in mind, I will make one final point which you can refute if you like. I am relieved that you have had no problems so far with the GT tranny in the low 200 hp range (I am sure you are as well). However, I think that sometimes we rely on our own personal experiences too much in giving advice rather than the collective experiences of the community. I have read of AT LEAST 10 GT trannies from celica 3sgte swaps that have crapped out. I am sure there have been even more with MR2s (although I have never researched the issue). Most of these were far below 300whp. Perhaps there are a number of swaps out there at those levels, like yours, that have never had problems. With that said, I think we can safely conclude as a community that running the GT tranny at levels much above 200whp is going to be a risk.


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QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]

i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.

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- gt_driFFter   Question for the 3S Swappers!   Apr 26, 2006 - 1:56 PM
- - brianforster   if your car is a manual now, id take that transmis...   Apr 26, 2006 - 2:01 PM
- - lagos   i just got a new set of tires, and now i dont have...   Apr 26, 2006 - 2:02 PM
- - gt_driFFter   The car has 247k miles on it. I just swapped in an...   Apr 26, 2006 - 2:15 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(gt_driFFter @ Apr 26, 2006 - 2...   Apr 26, 2006 - 2:34 PM
- - lagos   i dont really have a lot of torque steer with thes...   Apr 26, 2006 - 2:41 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(lagos @ Apr 26, 2006 - 2:41 PM...   Apr 26, 2006 - 6:47 PM
- - gt_driFFter   Yeah, at this point I'm looking for around 225...   Apr 26, 2006 - 2:43 PM
- - Kwanza26   I think you should make a decision not based on tr...   Apr 26, 2006 - 6:45 PM
- - defgeph   This is one of those topics that will go on back a...   Apr 26, 2006 - 7:35 PM
- - easternpiro1   i'd hate to butt in and jack a post, but i hav...   Apr 27, 2006 - 5:41 PM
- - presure2   eastern..torque steer is when you mash the gas, an...   Apr 28, 2006 - 8:21 AM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(presure2 @ Apr 28, 2006 - 8:21...   Apr 28, 2006 - 8:50 AM
||- - presure2   QUOTE(jgreening @ Apr 28, 2006 - 9:5...   Apr 28, 2006 - 9:55 AM
|- - urbandork   QUOTE(presure2 @ Apr 28, 2006 - 1:21...   Apr 29, 2006 - 12:09 PM
- - burneeed   e153 is the way like jgreening I have been through...   Apr 28, 2006 - 8:48 AM
- - burneeed   hahaha thats the truth.   Apr 28, 2006 - 9:13 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE(jgreening @ Apr 26, 2006 - 7:4...   Apr 28, 2006 - 11:25 AM
- - burneeed   honestly I dont know how you can drive that for 2 ...   Apr 28, 2006 - 11:55 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(burneeed @ Apr 28, 2006 - 12:5...   Apr 28, 2006 - 2:49 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(burneeed @ Apr 28, 2006 - 12:5...   Apr 28, 2006 - 12:07 PM
- - burneeed   Id like to see your car sometime.. I meen those nu...   Apr 28, 2006 - 7:30 PM
- - defgeph   Poping three trannys seems kind of fishy. Art po...   Apr 28, 2006 - 7:34 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(defgeph @ Apr 28, 2006 - 8:34 ...   Apr 28, 2006 - 10:29 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(lagos @ Apr 28, 2006 - 11:29 P...   Apr 29, 2006 - 5:58 AM
- - burneeed   e153 is almost in I made both mounts tonight. Ill...   Apr 28, 2006 - 11:12 PM
- - defgeph   Haha, you can change me to a JDM 3sge tranny. My t...   Apr 28, 2006 - 11:28 PM
- - lagos   so whats the tranny code? this is the 1st time any...   Apr 29, 2006 - 9:16 AM
|- - defgeph   QUOTE(lagos @ Apr 29, 2006 - 10:16 A...   Apr 29, 2006 - 11:26 AM
- - yungazzdriver   check out this tranny, this is the one converted t...   Apr 29, 2006 - 9:55 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE(defgeph @ Apr 29, 2006 - 12:26...   Apr 29, 2006 - 5:21 PM
- - defgeph   I DO know what tranny it is. you dont. I told you ...   Apr 29, 2006 - 5:31 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(defgeph @ Apr 29, 2006 - 6:31 ...   Apr 29, 2006 - 5:34 PM


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