Question for the 3S Swappers! Options

[gt_driFFter]

Basically, I will be swapping soon (end of summer hopefully) and I want to know if it's worth it to go with the E153 Tranny, or any other LSD combo? For you guys using just the GT tranny, do you get much 1 wheel-peel? I'll have Dr Tweak do the swap, I just want to know if it's with the extra $1200-$1750.

Thanks

[lagos]

i dont really have a lot of torque steer with these tires. i did with my old ones. but yeah, lsd will help you not have torque steer issues.

i agree with what jay said about planing out your power level 1st, except that i don agree on the number he posted. i think as long as you stay under 300hp, youll be just fine with the stock GT tranny .

now here is something a lot of people dont think about. once you have a turbo car, and realize how easy it is to make more power, youll have a serious addiction. you will never feel like you have enough power. so if its in your budget, you might as well have a tranny in there, that you know will be able to hold 300+ hp without any problems.

Art, you and I agree on most things, this topic included. I think its fair to say that driving habits probably have more to do with this issue rather than the precise horsepower output of the car.

With that in mind, I will make one final point which you can refute if you like. I am relieved that you have had no problems so far with the GT tranny in the low 200 hp range (I am sure you are as well). However, I think that sometimes we rely on our own personal experiences too much in giving advice rather than the collective experiences of the community. I have read of AT LEAST 10 GT trannies from celica 3sgte swaps that have crapped out. I am sure there have been even more with MR2s (although I have never researched the issue). Most of these were far below 300whp. Perhaps there are a number of swaps out there at those levels, like yours, that have never had problems. With that said, I think we can safely conclude as a community that running the GT tranny at levels much above 200whp is going to be a risk.

you know.... ive seen posts of people saying they had tranny issues with the gt tranny, ive also seen people have issues with the mr2 tranny ...and after reading most of them, it sounded more like clutch issues, then tranny problems. a lot of people misdaignose the problem, and when their car wont go into gear, they blame the trans. if they really did have tranny problems, its probably because they were getting close to 200,000miles on their car, and the trans was on its way out anyway. also, most of the tranny issues i have see were with the older s53 (5th gen). most people agree the s54 seems to be stronger.

here is a list of people i can thnk of who havent had a problem with their gt tranny.

Lagos 2yrs now
presure2 has close to 20k boosted miles on his
jeff JDM 3sge tranny
Dg_performance going over 2yrs (but he dosnt drive his car often)
Doge 2yrs (did the swap at the same time as i have)
Ryu (red gt4 look from cali) has had his for a while.
Jamasco - told me he made 300hp on a gt tranny with no issues.
BBOY (forgot to add him to the list)
etc....

now, there is no doubt that the lsd mr2 tranny is the better choice. its very strong, and has LSD... but lets not kock the s54. i think more then engough people on here have used one for a while to prove that its not a total piece of crap.

This post has been edited by lagos: Apr 29, 2006 - 9:17 AM