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post May 13, 2006 - 4:22 AM
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So about 3 months ago i graduated with my masters in Aerospace engineering and after a long search, i finally found a job where they throw money at me for doing cool stuff. So that handles the funding. With this new funding, i bought a house with its very own garage here in Seattle. Its only a one car garage, but its something. That handles the work space.

About two years ago i seriously looked into turboing the 5sfe. But as i was starting grad school, i neither had the money or workspace to actually do so. In addition, i saw all the 5sfte folks go toward the 3sgte swap way after their set up either failed or didnt give them the power they wanted. So then i researched that route, though not as serious. But times have changed and the things that kept me from a boosting source are no longer a problem. After looking at everything, i see that it is logistically impossible for me to do the 3s swap myself (so if you reply saying not to turbo and swap instead, please take into account the labor costs). So now i am revisiting the 5sfte route.

By no means do i consider myself a senior member, but i have been here since the begining, so all the topics on this site as well as many other sites conserning the 5sfte i have either read or written. I know all the parts needed, numbers, problem issues and concerns.
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Since my serious research, i have still kept up with the topics on the 5sfte, but i might have missed things or perhaps the turbo folks may have done something they did not report. So what i would like to know is who has done what and if they were successful or if it failed. Specifically on the issues of:

-timing and fuel management (safc+msd btm combo or greddy emanage? why?)
-Fuel injectors (i think i recall reading that there were concerns that the supra green top injectors were not good enough. Please comment.)
-Gaskets (again i recall oil leak or burning issues, what gaskets have worked for you?)

Please add in any additional info that you think may prove useful (intercooler sizing and piping, boost control, coolant and oil piping, etc...). Additional speculation and debate is ok, but the most useful information will be if you have tried it. I only plan on boosting 5 psi, please take into account.

Thanks in advance for the help, and sorry for the super long post.
-Asher


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post May 13, 2006 - 11:11 AM
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im not using the BTM anymore.
the car seemed to fall on its face right @ 4450rpm with any settings i used with the BTM.
as far as the SAFCII + BTM combo, i am really starting to think a much better investment would be somthing like the E-manage Ultimate, cause it can give you FAR greater control over things than the SAFCII and BTM could ever give you.
I'll be making a seperate post here in a couple days about it, i am planning on getting one here soon, and from the research that ive done, it should allow me to get a MUCH more solid and reliable tune.
as far as injectors, yes, the 315's have been proven IMO to be too small for our applications with the 2 bar map sensor.
we've found that rx-7 4600cc n/a injectors are plug and play (see my profile for the PT. #), and even tho they do tend to be rich at idle, id much rather have that, than lean under boost, where you really NEED the fuel.
and from the looks of things, i really think we could solve that problem with somthing like the emanage ultimate.
IMO the 'ultimate is the next logical step in the evolution of the 5sfte, before going full standalone, especially if you already own a laptop.
ive found it (the emanage ultimate) on ebay shipped for 550$ with all the harnesses included, which when you think about it, is basicly about 100$ more than what you pay new for the SAFCII and BTM combo. ( i paid 255$ and 200$ for both, respectivly.) with the more advanced features you get with the 'ultimate, its well worth the extra $$ in the long run IMO.
as far as gaskets,... anything that leaks now, or looks like it MAY leak in the near future, WILL leak when you boost. just keep that in mind.
i have a '98 motor in my car, ( i got it from lagos when he swapped, THANKS art!! hehe) that came with a metal headgasket stock, so i got lucky as far as that is concerned.
as far as running 5psi, you will not be able to do that on the ct-26, the stock wastegate actuator opens the wastegate @ 7psi.
good luck!


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