im a turbo noob, 5sgte? head work? what to do Options

[b1gr3d]

ok i am planning to turbo my 5sfe, my problem is what to do?!!

1. should i just buy 3sgte manifold with ct26 and all of the needed parts ( i read the posts about it and i'm sure you have too so no need to list ALL of the parts)

2.get head work done to my 5s head for a gasket match and port/ polish then do #1

3. buy a 3sgte head and match it to my 5s block, then do step #1
questions about #3 (DON'T FLAME ME)
CAN it be done w/o going to a machine shop? can it be done w/o replacing and internals from the block?
4. i was wanting to know if a t3 turbo would put out the same numbers as a ct26...simply becuase every other car in the world uses t3 or t4..why can't i?
-if i go with step 4 then of course i will port/polish and gasket match and posibly have the head milled just to have it level

the numbers i want to try to achieve are simple..over 200..psi.-under 15...maybe 12. this will be a daily driver so cost is low and down time is lower. i can do nearly anything, and i am going to wyotech in July, so i have no fear of fabrication...i only fear price and damage to my dear celi....

thanks for the help ahead of time and be gentle. i would also like to gain enough info on this thread to use it as a sticky for other users

If i can i would also like to out do pressure 2 in HP numbers for 5s block(yeah i know i may use 3g head but still)

[b1gr3d]

[quote name='Kadett' date='Jun 5, 2006 - 10:46 AM' post='441235']
To quote Blade:

"Some motherf*&&%s are always trying to iceskate uphill"

Why would you want to do it the hard way with all the complications. BTW you are reading stuff on the mr2 forums but have you considered the fact that even if you get high figures you will have 1 slight problem. The Celica is a FWD car so there is no point in getting above 300ish bhp. What Manny has done to his car is great but that wasn't done overnight.

Like burneed said. I would go for number 5: Do a 3S-GTE swap instead!
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If i have a budget for the 5s then how would i have the moeny for a 3sgte, and downtime for my car? People run integras and everything else in the world with over 300hp--also i said i want over 200..like 215 or 220, NOT an obserd amount over 200. what he did wasnt over night but i can also read what he has done to his car and learn / use it on mine instead of doing it the hard way and making mistakes

[quote name='presure2' date='Jun 5, 2006 - 1:04 PM' post='441289']
[quote name='b1gr3d' post='441223' date='Jun 5, 2006 - 12:17 PM']
[quote name='presure2' post='441174' date='Jun 5, 2006 - 5:29 AM']
do #1.
trying to outdo my #s for a 5s block is kinda pointless, there are guys over on mr2oc that are WELL over 500whp on a 5s block, and 400+whp is common.
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the problem is that you wont be "squeezing" power out of the 5s, with a 3s head.
it effectivly becomes a stroker 3sgte, since to run it, you at the minimum need the 3s ecu, and you wont get the most out of it without some form of real EMS.
and, if you have "budget" and 5sgte in the same sentence, you are very misinformed.
building a stroker is NOT cheap.
there is no way around it.
unless you have the 3s head, harness, ecu, capability to do the wiring, engine work, tuning and everything else thats involved in it, yourself. and even then, your STILL not looking at a "budget" project.
just the EMS and tuning involved your looking at 2k+.
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Well the 3s head is out of the question if it going to cost that much because everyone that has even mentioned a 3s head has said that i might as well do a swap which is not in the cards right now.




I am going to build my 5sfte regardless of what anyone says on here because if mr guys and pressure2 can do it then why can't i? You might not think that i "understand" how these things work but I know you all do and that is why I ask you. I am not going to order or buy any of these parts right now so I have time to figure out what i am going to do.