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post May 22, 2006 - 2:28 PM
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For a while i was considering buying myself a new toy, Turbosmart E-Boost 2, an EBC with a variety of features, one of them being the capability to map boost against time, rpm or GEAR. Now, I have noticed that breaking the traction on street tires is likely to occur not only on a hard launch from a dead stop, but also at WOT in 1st and 2nd gear short time after going over 10psi. Since this unit can control boost depending on gear i guess we could use it to stay within limits of traction in those gears! yes? no? suggestions? comments?

Since im still on internal WG and my actuator is on 13-14 psi, the EBC itself wouldn't help... Is there a way to lower WG actuaction pressure?? That is without welding the flapper shut and going external.

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post Jun 13, 2006 - 3:22 PM
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Its funny you guys mention the engine damper because i was thinking about yesterday. But what do you guys think about running a turbo xs dual stage boost controller? heres their description: Turbo xs dual stage - Its somewhere in the middle

"Dual Stage Boost Controller (BC-DSBC) US$249.00
The Dual Stage Boost Controller allows you to switch between two preset boost levels with the flip of a switch from inside the car. Got a high horsepower Front Wheel Drive turbocharged car that can't get off the line? Use the BC-DSBC to launch the car with low boost than switch to the second stage higher boost level for maximum top end power. "




I got mine in yesterday so ill post about my experience with it once installed. i paid 190 shipped for mine

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post Jun 13, 2006 - 4:29 PM
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QUOTE(eggman40 @ Jun 13, 2006 - 3:22 PM) [snapback]444303[/snapback]

Its funny you guys mention the engine damper because i was thinking about yesterday. But what do you guys think about running a turbo xs dual stage boost controller? heres their description: Turbo xs dual stage - Its somewhere in the middle

"Dual Stage Boost Controller (BC-DSBC) US$249.00
The Dual Stage Boost Controller allows you to switch between two preset boost levels with the flip of a switch from inside the car. Got a high horsepower Front Wheel Drive turbocharged car that can't get off the line? Use the BC-DSBC to launch the car with low boost than switch to the second stage higher boost level for maximum top end power. "




I got mine in yesterday so ill post about my experience with it once installed. i paid 190 shipped for mine


Unless the button is on the steering wheel, it will not help to have a dual stage boost controller if you are looking to use the first stage to reduce wheel spin on a WOT pull. Everything happens too fast. I have the Greddy Profec B Type I which has dual settings but the unit is dash mounted. There is NO WAY I could change settings in the middle of a WOT pull - it flat out would not be safe.



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QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]

i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.

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- CilverSeliST205   Controlling boost for better traction   May 22, 2006 - 2:28 PM
- - Supersprynt   The AVCR has that feature also. You have to teach ...   May 22, 2006 - 2:53 PM
- - brianforster   i cant wait for this topic to be more developed th...   May 22, 2006 - 3:03 PM
- - phattyduck   QUOTE(CilverSeliST205 @ May 22, 2006 - 1...   May 22, 2006 - 4:56 PM
|- - CilverSeliST205   QUOTE(phattyduck @ May 22, 2006 - 5...   May 23, 2006 - 12:03 AM
- - jgreening   Its a good idea. It is a topic that I have though...   May 22, 2006 - 9:33 PM
|- - CilverSeliST205   QUOTE(jgreening @ May 22, 2006 - 10...   May 22, 2006 - 11:50 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(CilverSeliST205 @ May 22, 2006 - 1...   May 23, 2006 - 6:49 AM
||- - CilverSeliST205   QUOTE(jgreening @ May 23, 2006 - 6:4...   May 23, 2006 - 8:34 AM
||- - jgreening   QUOTE(CilverSeliST205 @ May 23, 2006 - 8...   May 23, 2006 - 8:38 AM
||- - CilverSeliST205   QUOTE(jgreening @ May 23, 2006 - 8:3...   May 23, 2006 - 9:06 AM
||- - jgreening   QUOTE(CilverSeliST205 @ May 23, 2006 - 9...   May 23, 2006 - 10:24 AM
||- - CilverSeliST205   QUOTE(jgreening @ May 23, 2006 - 10...   May 23, 2006 - 11:09 AM
||- - swerve   Racelogic Traction Control - the Supra guys swear ...   Jun 5, 2006 - 9:24 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(CilverSeliST205 @ May 22, 2006 - 1...   May 23, 2006 - 11:12 AM
- - lagos   its all about the tires. running less boost might...   May 22, 2006 - 9:59 PM
- - defgeph   As noted above, a wide pair of stickies would do t...   May 22, 2006 - 11:36 PM
- - brianforster   could you guys explain what a traction bar is?   May 22, 2006 - 11:40 PM
- - defgeph   Edit : Bolts up to the front.   May 22, 2006 - 11:44 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(defgeph @ May 22, 2006 - 11:44...   May 23, 2006 - 9:02 AM
- - brianforster   so youd have to remove them to street drive it?   May 22, 2006 - 11:46 PM
|- - defgeph   QUOTE(brianforster @ May 23, 2006 - 12...   May 22, 2006 - 11:49 PM
- - brianforster   then in my opinion traction bars for our car shoul...   May 22, 2006 - 11:53 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE You can't just drive around in slicks al...   May 23, 2006 - 11:12 AM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(lagos @ May 23, 2006 - 11:12 A...   May 23, 2006 - 11:16 AM
|- - CilverSeliST205   QUOTE(jgreening @ May 23, 2006 - 11...   May 23, 2006 - 11:46 AM
- - presure2   thing is art...you never really drive your car har...   May 23, 2006 - 11:25 AM
- - Kadett   QUOTE(jgreening @ May 23, 2006 - 5:2...   May 23, 2006 - 12:40 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(presure2 @ May 23, 2006 - 12:2...   May 23, 2006 - 12:50 PM
|- - CilverSeliST205   QUOTE(lagos @ May 23, 2006 - 12:50 P...   May 23, 2006 - 12:59 PM
- - lagos   what tire do they put on the stock SRT-4's? Q...   May 23, 2006 - 1:21 PM
|- - CilverSeliST205   QUOTE(lagos @ May 23, 2006 - 1:21 PM...   May 23, 2006 - 1:29 PM
- - jgreening   I nominate this thread for sticky.   May 24, 2006 - 11:55 AM
|- - CilverSeliST205   QUOTE(jgreening @ May 24, 2006 - 11...   May 24, 2006 - 3:00 PM
- - jgreening   Here is the Full-Race Article on traction bars: T...   May 24, 2006 - 4:13 PM
- - presure2   interesting reading, guys. jay, how will this bolt...   May 25, 2006 - 5:44 AM
- - CilverSeliST205   Torque Damper (AKA Engine Damper) - I read somewhe...   Jun 12, 2006 - 1:08 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(CilverSeliST205 @ Jun 12, 2006 - 2...   Jun 12, 2006 - 1:33 PM
- - playr158   those "stiffy's" are pretty universa...   Jun 12, 2006 - 1:21 PM
- - lagos   ive been thinking about adding an alltrac like to...   Jun 12, 2006 - 1:47 PM
- - playr158   http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/INFINITI-AL...07271...   Jun 12, 2006 - 1:55 PM
- - lagos   http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PROJECTSILV...bayph...   Jun 12, 2006 - 2:03 PM
- - playr158   well with pretty much any shock...given a few hour...   Jun 12, 2006 - 2:17 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(playr158 @ Jun 12, 2006 - 2:17...   Jun 12, 2006 - 2:23 PM
- - lagos   the bar should go in the same factory location as ...   Jun 12, 2006 - 2:35 PM
|- - phattyduck   QUOTE(lagos @ Jun 12, 2006 - 12:35 P...   Jun 13, 2006 - 1:58 PM
- - Kadett   What I find strange is that there isn't one on...   Jun 12, 2006 - 2:53 PM
- - jgreening   I think it would be better to mount a torque bar u...   Jun 12, 2006 - 3:06 PM
|- - CilverSeliST205   QUOTE(jgreening @ Jun 12, 2006 - 3:0...   Jun 13, 2006 - 10:14 AM
- - CilverSeliST205   For you guys with filled mounts, is there a signif...   Jun 13, 2006 - 9:52 AM
|- - defgeph   QUOTE(CilverSeliST205 @ Jun 13, 2006 - 1...   Jun 13, 2006 - 9:57 AM
- - presure2   ive noticed my filled mount starting to "chun...   Jun 13, 2006 - 10:03 AM
- - playr158   QUOTE(jgreening @ Jun 12, 2006 - 3:2...   Jun 13, 2006 - 1:37 PM
- - eggman40   Its funny you guys mention the engine damper becau...   Jun 13, 2006 - 3:22 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(eggman40 @ Jun 13, 2006 - 3:22...   Jun 13, 2006 - 4:29 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(presure2 @ Jun 13, 2006 - 11:0...   Jun 13, 2006 - 7:35 PM
|- - eggman40   QUOTE(lagos @ Jun 14, 2006 - 12:35 A...   Jun 13, 2006 - 8:09 PM
- - lagos   it will work for any car using GT front and rear m...   Jun 13, 2006 - 8:13 PM
- - CilverSeliST205   This 500whp SRT4 uses AVCR to control boost per RP...   Jul 3, 2006 - 11:01 AM
- - jgreening   QUOTE(CilverSeliST205 @ Jul 3, 2006 - 11...   Jul 3, 2006 - 2:55 PM
- - Kadett   QUOTE(jgreening @ Jul 3, 2006 - 9:55...   Jul 3, 2006 - 3:07 PM


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