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post Jul 10, 2006 - 10:36 PM
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Heres a topic ive wondered and wanted some opinions about which is better, ive got some friends who run type r's but i dont know anyone with a 3sgte so im wondering what i can expect when i have mine put in smile.gif
 
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post Jul 11, 2006 - 12:01 PM
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QUOTE(x_itchy_b_x @ Jul 11, 2006 - 6:34 PM) [snapback]454561[/snapback]

a gt4 is slower than swapped celica right. due to the weight of AWD.
i think a swapped celica not a gt4 can beat an ITR because i have beaten
jdm h22 swapped civics and preludes before. im also at 15psi though.
are we talking stock for stock? cause then it would be a damn close race.


Unfortunaly wrong.

A GT4 will go from 0-100km/h in under 6 seconds (Toyota was a bit generous in the 6.1 seconds)
A ITR will go from 0-100km/h in 6.7 seconds

But since the GT4 is 4wd and the ITR is FWD it will be decided on how good the surface is where they are driving/racing on. Trackwise I think a ITR will beat the GT4 with ease.

With my swapped ST205 engine I get about 6.5 seconds for 0-100 km/h but thats with a heavy driver (myself, already going to the gym) and a Full ICE setup in the back. Still not as heavy as a GT4 but the GT4 just has more grip. When rolling I'm faster then a GT4.

And more importantly its all about the driver. I have beaten a ITR (with old engine) from a death stop for 2 reasons,
1 Better tyres
2 Better reaction time+shifting


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Posts in this topic
- brandonb87   3sgte vs. Type R?   Jul 10, 2006 - 10:36 PM
- - CelicaST202   boost on 3sgte   Jul 10, 2006 - 10:41 PM
- - KB-2   what are teh specs for the 3sgte??? and whats so g...   Jul 10, 2006 - 10:45 PM
- - kenjamatic   i haven't been in either car before(or a celi ...   Jul 10, 2006 - 10:48 PM
- - burneeed   Yupp Itr would beat a swapped celica. There prett...   Jul 10, 2006 - 11:05 PM
- - purplegt4   you guys need to ride in one then. 3sgte ftw.   Jul 10, 2006 - 11:07 PM
- - creis   um if you have a 3sgte swaped celica (say its a st...   Jul 10, 2006 - 11:10 PM
- - purplegt4   b18c5 '01 hp: 195 @ 8000 rpm tq: 130 @ 7500 rp...   Jul 10, 2006 - 11:11 PM
- - My2Celi   3sgte ftw   Jul 10, 2006 - 11:14 PM
- - teamchancery   i guess it depends on the 3sgte generation u get t...   Jul 10, 2006 - 11:18 PM
- - purplegt4   QUOTE(teamchancery @ Jul 11, 2006 - 12...   Jul 10, 2006 - 11:23 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(purplegt4 @ Jul 11, 2006 - 12...   Jul 10, 2006 - 11:25 PM
- - hitcachi   RE: 3sgte vs. Type R?   Jul 10, 2006 - 11:35 PM
- - burneeed   ITR Will beat a swaped 6gc sorry. I hate to admit...   Jul 10, 2006 - 11:37 PM
- - purplegt4   QUOTE(burneeed @ Jul 11, 2006 - 12:3...   Jul 10, 2006 - 11:40 PM
- - burneeed   I have not yet to race one... I have road inside o...   Jul 10, 2006 - 11:41 PM
- - purplegt4   you can't judge a car by the way if feels. som...   Jul 10, 2006 - 11:43 PM
- - burneeed   yes and it feels like it pulls harder than mine......   Jul 10, 2006 - 11:44 PM
- - purplegt4   yup swapped 5th gen, orange one in woodbridge, va....   Jul 10, 2006 - 11:49 PM
- - Akimbo   Horrible place to ask that question. The bias her...   Jul 10, 2006 - 11:54 PM
- - burneeed   well of course there is going to be more torque ...   Jul 10, 2006 - 11:55 PM
- - purplegt4   ok well bias change! put that b18c5 in a ek h...   Jul 10, 2006 - 11:58 PM
- - pure_dx   are we talking stock for stock? the type-R (b18c5...   Jul 11, 2006 - 12:00 AM
- - burneeed   yupp the one I road in had great top end as you sh...   Jul 11, 2006 - 12:03 AM
- - purplegt4   k-series would probably be an even better race. bu...   Jul 11, 2006 - 12:06 AM
- - CelicaST202   how about 3sgte vs S2000 06 model   Jul 11, 2006 - 12:12 AM
- - chacha   hahaha...i think we need to call out those people ...   Jul 11, 2006 - 12:22 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE(burneeed @ Jul 11, 2006 - 12:3...   Jul 11, 2006 - 12:33 AM
|- - burneeed   QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 11, 2006 - 12:33 A...   Jul 11, 2006 - 4:13 AM
- - j0e_p3t   3sgte for life.   Jul 11, 2006 - 12:58 AM
- - XS4lv1Truch0x   sounds to me like the b18c5 is like the honda vers...   Jul 11, 2006 - 1:28 AM
- - BBoYRuGGeD   what engine is in the IT-R? if its a b16, then i w...   Jul 11, 2006 - 1:49 AM
- - Insanity-74   I raced loads of type r`s when my st205 was st...   Jul 11, 2006 - 1:52 AM
- - daazndood   wasnt the integra type R like mid 6 seconds for th...   Jul 11, 2006 - 3:13 AM
|- - CLYCK   itr= beams 3sge uhm not really more like k20 type ...   Jul 11, 2006 - 4:21 AM
- - brandonb87   Awesome thread on this topic guys, im only talking...   Jul 11, 2006 - 4:47 AM
- - creamed_corn   I thought the motto of the 3S swappers over on cel...   Jul 11, 2006 - 6:45 AM
- - jdg371   Im confused.. is this in a dig or a roll? If roll ...   Jul 11, 2006 - 7:07 AM
|- - fastcelica20   a supercharged mk1 mr2 has a very good chance agai...   Jul 11, 2006 - 8:55 AM
- - nate95   OMG, a 3sgte will own an itr anyday, with a 3sgte ...   Jul 11, 2006 - 9:30 AM
- - Kadett   I have beaten an ITR with my old 3S-GE engine. So ...   Jul 11, 2006 - 9:34 AM
- - purplegt4   QUOTE(Kadett @ Jul 11, 2006 - 10:34 ...   Jul 11, 2006 - 10:16 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   a gt4 is slower than swapped celica right. due to ...   Jul 11, 2006 - 11:34 AM
- - Kadett   QUOTE(x_itchy_b_x @ Jul 11, 2006 - 6...   Jul 11, 2006 - 12:01 PM
- - presure2   this thread is 100% pointless.   Jul 11, 2006 - 12:17 PM


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