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> 3SGTE questions, really need a faq on this!
post Jul 12, 2003 - 1:17 PM
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Ok well I used to come to this site alot because I really like the toyota celica. As of right now I still own my first car, a mazda mx-3, well Im sick of it, its going to cost me mega $$ to get it where I want it. So Im going to get a celica for the fall and do a swap hopefully over the winter. So Ive searched trying to find some straight forward info on this swap and there really isnt.

So far all Ive gethered is you need a wiring harness, also and ecu and IM is on everyones list. Ill be ordering a complete engine which includes the ecu and hopefully the harness, Ill ask before I order. Do to ontario law i wont need the IM since my car can be classified as a hotrod and tested under 1980's emmision standards.

So heres my question, when I order this engine is that that? Will it drop right in and just adopt all my old parts, or will I need things to make it work? It comes from a awd car, correct? So what does this imply for a fwd car? So please all the info you could give me would be great, a shopping list of EVERY part needed or recomended would be great. I would also suggest adding a walk through of the swap to a faq section.

Thanks alot!
Timothy Dawson
 
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post Jul 13, 2003 - 6:25 AM
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QUOTE (Uppitycracker @ Jul 12, 2003 - 7:39 PM)
[QUOTE=Teyaku,Jul 12, 2003 - 7:10 PM] [/QUOTE]
Your ECU controls the engine...it reads input from the sensors located all over the engine bay. I honestly didn't know anything about wiring in a car...but you have to remember something...wiring is simply electric current flowing through a circuit through wires and fuses...sensors are volt signals..it's not all that complicated...basically when it comes to wiring...just plug the connectors in biggrin.gif

BTW what did you mean by the 3sgte being a j-spec engine??? J-spec is referring to Japan...as my motor is a J-spec 3rd gen 3sgte...a 3sgte is just the engine code. In America we got the 1st and 2nd gen or USDM's...200HP and 225HP...the 3rd gen J-Spec is 255HP and Euro engines were 245HP. [/QUOTE]
What I mean by jspec is its a engine from japan! The site that carries them says its from there scrap yards in Japan. I know the difference between codes and areas of origin. Also for some swaps it is just a matter of plug and play, with this swap it seems to be a little more complicated then that, Im familiar with the physics of analog and digital components. What people have said is there is some rewiring required for this swap on the ecu aswell as in the car, which is beyond my understanding, and Im sure beyond the mechanics aswell (maybe Im under estimating the schooling of a mechanic) so I would like more detailed info, and Im so serious when say this, every post you look up is like 2 car guys trying disprove the other, its frustrating, so once again a well written unbiased faq would be great. Something a laimen could understand. OK so new axles since Im also unfamiliar with that area where do people usually get these done?

If it's a JDM motor/clip and if you plan on getting a gen 3, rewiring is gonna be a beyotch. The ST185 wiring isn't that difficult to mess around with. If it's a USDM motor, everything should be plug and play.

As for the axles, it depends on the tranny that you plan on using. You can get these made by any shop that specializes in making axles... OR you can mix-and-match parts from different cars.

My friend, who dropped in a 3S in his Camry, had his axles made by ELP from like 8 different cars (or something like that). I know that there's a shop here in San Bernadino, Cali that makes custom axles. I just don't remember the name of the shop.


Posts in this topic
- Uppitycracker   3SGTE questions   Jul 12, 2003 - 1:17 PM
- - Kwanza   QUOTE (Uppitycracker @ Jul 12, 2003 - 10:31 AM) S...   Jul 12, 2003 - 1:26 PM
- - Supersprynt   Welcome to the site Tim - almost every question yo...   Jul 12, 2003 - 4:04 PM
- - Uppitycracker   Hey thanks alot guys, ya i know all about the sear...   Jul 12, 2003 - 5:35 PM
- - kuya1284   QUOTE (Uppitycracker @ Jul 12, 2003 - 10:31 AM) So...   Jul 12, 2003 - 5:58 PM
- - kuya1284   One last thing, don't expect this project to b...   Jul 12, 2003 - 5:59 PM
- - Uppitycracker   hey thanks for the additional info, this is just n...   Jul 12, 2003 - 6:12 PM
- - Uppitycracker   QUOTE (kuya1284 @ Jul 12, 2003 - 3:13 PM) One last...   Jul 12, 2003 - 6:40 PM
- - Teyaku   QUOTE (kuya1284 @ Jul 12, 2003 - 3:12 PM) QUOTE (U...   Jul 12, 2003 - 9:23 PM
- - Uppitycracker   Dude I searched and the information is scetchy and...   Jul 12, 2003 - 9:28 PM
- - Teyaku   QUOTE (Uppitycracker @ Jul 12, 2003 - 3:54 PM) QUO...   Jul 12, 2003 - 9:34 PM
- - Teyaku   QUOTE (Uppitycracker @ Jul 12, 2003 - 6:42 PM) Dud...   Jul 12, 2003 - 9:47 PM
- - Teyaku   QUOTE (Uppitycracker @ Jul 12, 2003 - 3:26 PM) hey...   Jul 12, 2003 - 9:56 PM
- - Uppitycracker   QUOTE (Teyaku @ Jul 12, 2003 - 7:10 PM) [/QUOTE] Y...   Jul 12, 2003 - 10:25 PM
- - kuya1284   QUOTE (Teyaku @ Jul 12, 2003 - 6:37 PM) Hey Ray ho...   Jul 13, 2003 - 6:17 AM
- - kuya1284   QUOTE (Uppitycracker @ Jul 12, 2003 - 7:39 PM) Yo...   Jul 13, 2003 - 6:25 AM
- - Matthew   If you dont want to use your GT tranny. I would ...   Jul 13, 2003 - 2:51 PM


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