Getting tired of the mods around here... Options

[Akimbo]

This forum is so boring to visit. I really dislike the way the moderators run things here. Lately, things have been so lock-happy it's not even funny. Sometimes the topics can be decent yet Manny or Jeff will swoop in and lock things. It's getting ridiculous. I guess that's the strict rules this place has though. I just think off-topic should be a bit more relaxed. No porn or racism obviously.

Why don't you mods get a forum and make posts so you can lock them? Maybe that'll satisfy that urge.

I'm just tired of the baby-ishness of 6GC.

[Coomer]

I'm completely behind my moderators and we feel that locking topics and keeping the site family-friendly is a good thing. There are plenty of other sites with more relaxed rules, and plenty of sites with much stricter rules. We've chosen our rules carefully and we feel that they're appropriate for the site.

[Mynzeyes]

I'm completely behind my moderators and we feel that locking topics and keeping the site family-friendly is a good thing. There are plenty of other sites with more relaxed rules, and plenty of sites with much stricter rules. We've chosen our rules carefully and we feel that they're appropriate for the site.

what about all of the hypocrisy, and moderators bashing cars, and participating in illegal activities(everyone knows miguel is only 19, and knows that since it was at Manny's house, he is responsible), and threatening people physically? is that appropriate?

there really is favoritism going on around here. i'm not any part of it, but i'm pointing it out, being a 3rd party person.

Also, as far as PMing everyone about things. sometimes things need to be said out in the open. when someone calls out a moderator on something they are doing wrong, the mods edit it, or delete it, and cover their tracks. sure, they go to the "deleted topics/posts" forum, but we all know not every mod, or coomer, reads every single post in there. it's go for people to know some things.

sure, the site is still helpful to the new people, but once you get past that, it's still the same. and it even ripples into other threads and topics. people in the cliques reply to their own questions, and if you aren't, you get generalized answers. a lot of the long-time members are leaving the site, because it truely has taken a turn for the worse.

Coomer, i'm sorry, but if you don't see this, and you think the way certain people are acting, and representing the site is justified, you are ignorant.

Examples:
1a: "bashing"
Thread closed for 'bashing'.
1b: "bashing"
Manny 'bashing' Burneed's hoodscoop. Why is it ok for him?

2a: Now, this thread is the topic of a lot of "controversy", so let me add a 3rd party opinion:
miguel is drunk and living in my bathroom!
Now, let's start with the obvious. Manny posted it. taking pictures. everyone was having fun. it's obvious. everyone KNOWS how old miguel is. the fact that he is drinking is beside the point. the point is, Manny published this activitiy taking place in his home, under his own name, and being of sound mind. Technically speaking, legal course could be taken, and this could be used as evidence. manny and his wife would have been held responsible. THAT is the point of debate which Dustin(brown) brought up. Dustin jumps in, in order to defend manny (in the 'clique' in question), but offers no real answer. he said he showed his ID, and it said he was 21. look in his profile, look on myspace, look in chats. he is 19. all dustin offers is thta he just says to quit crying.

onward we move. dan points out the facts of the matter, and sites the rules that are being broken. dustin says to quit crying again. posting a picture. how mature, and about as effective as the "chewbacca defense".

onward again, jeff locks the topic. says the fun is over.

oh wait, manny UNLOCKS the thread, threatens dan, then tells Dustin(brown) to PM. Again, no defense, just says, "hey, don't point it out to the public".

later i may find other examples, but i think those are pretty solid enough for the time being, just to get the point across.

in conclusion: there may be some underlying things, which have caused personal vendettas, but the truth of the matter is, factions are being created, and power is being abused. i have nothing against anyone personally, but that above pretty much proves what people are saying. i realize the rules are the rules, and they are different at different sites, but, the fact remains, that the rules were broken by people of "power", and nothing is done about it.

there's my take. not that it matters, and guess what, i don't care if anything is done or not. i'm just VERY bored at work right now, and have nothing else better to do. . i come here to look at OT every now and then, and Buying/Selling. if you can, feel free to poke holes in my argument, or just delete it and lock this thread. if that's what is done, then it will be apparent what is really the truth.

coomer, i believe a public warning to your moderators would be a nice action, and prove that hey, the rules do apply to them too. otherwise, it'll just be obvious that you are all ignorant and blinded by your "l33t intr4n3t p0w3r".

-John-

edit: i see manny has a warning in his sig, which is not an actual warning. and it's quite playful at most. and also, a formal PUBLIC warning from COOMER, is what i mean. so don't bother pointing that out.

This post has been edited by Mynzeyes: Jul 24, 2006 - 1:30 PM

[jgreening]

I'm completely behind my moderators and we feel that locking topics and keeping the site family-friendly is a good thing. There are plenty of other sites with more relaxed rules, and plenty of sites with much stricter rules. We've chosen our rules carefully and we feel that they're appropriate for the site.

what about all of the hypocrisy, and moderators bashing cars, and participating in illegal activities(everyone knows miguel is only 19, and knows that since it was at Manny's house, he is responsible), and threatening people physically? is that appropriate?

there really is favoritism going on around here. i'm not any part of it, but i'm pointing it out, being a 3rd party person.

Also, as far as PMing everyone about things. sometimes things need to be said out in the open. when someone calls out a moderator on something they are doing wrong, the mods edit it, or delete it, and cover their tracks. sure, they go to the "deleted topics/posts" forum, but we all know not every mod, or coomer, reads every single post in there. it's go for people to know some things.

sure, the site is still helpful to the new people, but once you get past that, it's still the same. and it even ripples into other threads and topics. people in the cliques reply to their own questions, and if you aren't, you get generalized answers. a lot of the long-time members are leaving the site, because it truely has taken a turn for the worse.

Coomer, i'm sorry, but if you don't see this, and you think the way certain people are acting, and representing the site is justified, you are ignorant.

Examples:
1a: "bashing"
Thread closed for 'bashing'.
1b: "bashing"
Manny 'bashing' Burneed's hoodscoop. Why is it ok for him?

2a: Now, this thread is the topic of a lot of "controversy", so let me add a 3rd party opinion:
miguel is drunk and living in my bathroom!
Now, let's start with the obvious. Manny posted it. taking pictures. everyone was having fun. it's obvious. everyone KNOWS how old miguel is. the fact that he is drinking is beside the point. the point is, Manny published this activitiy taking place in his home, under his own name, and being of sound mind. Technically speaking, legal course could be taken, and this could be used as evidence. manny and his wife would have been held responsible. THAT is the point of debate which Dustin(brown) brought up. Dustin jumps in, in order to defend manny (in the 'clique' in question), but offers no real answer. he said he showed his ID, and it said he was 21. look in his profile, look on myspace, look in chats. he is 19. all dustin offers is thta he just says to quit crying.

onward we move. dan points out the facts of the matter, and sites the rules that are being broken. dustin says to quit crying again. posting a picture. how mature, and about as effective as the "chewbacca defense".

onward again, jeff locks the topic. says the fun is over.

oh wait, manny UNLOCKS the thread, threatens dan, then tells Dustin(brown) to PM. Again, no defense, just says, "hey, don't point it out to the public".

later i may find other examples, but i think those are pretty solid enough for the time being, just to get the point across.

in conclusion: there may be some underlying things, which have caused personal vendettas, but the truth of the matter is, factions are being created, and power is being abused. i have nothing against anyone personally, but that above pretty much proves what people are saying. i realize the rules are the rules, and they are different at different sites, but, the fact remains, that the rules were broken by people of "power", and nothing is done about it.

there's my take. not that it matters, and guess what, i don't care if anything is done or not. i'm just VERY bored at work right now, and have nothing else better to do. . i come here to look at OT every now and then, and Buying/Selling. if you can, feel free to poke holes in my argument, or just delete it and lock this thread. if that's what is done, then it will be apparent what is really the truth.

coomer, i believe a public warning to your moderators would be a nice action, and prove that hey, the rules do apply to them too. otherwise, it'll just be obvious that you are all ignorant and blinded by your "l33t intr4n3t p0w3r".

-John-

edit: i see manny has a warning in his sig, which is not an actual warning. and it's quite playful at most. and also, a formal PUBLIC warning from COOMER, is what i mean. so don't bother pointing that out.

When you get a little older, you will be surprised at yourself for taking the time to write so much on an insignificant matter.

[Mynzeyes]

When you get a little older, you will be surprised at yourself for taking the time to write so much on an insignificant matter.

i'm 24, well-educated, well-spoken, and have a nice career. i'm also bored at work. and if you'll read, i don't really care if anything happens or not. i'm just pointing it out, with hard evidence, so that people will open their eyes and stop bickering back and forth with empty efforts. also, i've been a member here for YEARS. so, that portion of my life isn't so insignificant. and when friends i have established on here are leaving left and right, and people are constantly bickering, i offer my opinion.

when you get a little older, you will be surprised at how your insignificant reply on such a matter really is quite trivial, and instead, you could have offered an educated response to the matter at hand, instead of trying to make some low-brow remark pointing out my assumed immaturity.

[jgreening]

when you get a little older, you will be surprised at how your insignificant reply on such a matter really is quite trivial, and instead, you could have offered an educated response to the matter at hand, instead of trying to make some low-brow remark pointing out my assumed immaturity.

Cute. My reply was MEANT to be insignificant because the topic IS insignificant. Here is my educated response: Complaints regarding this matter are silly and sound very whiney in the grand scheme of things. I would have thought someone as mature as yourself would have figured out what I meant.

I happen to agree that the mods have been a little lock happy in the past but, you know what? People have to make those calls and those people will not always agree with me. The point is, I have pointed out the exact same issue before in a calm respectful matter that didn't sound near as immature or alarmist as your post. In the end, the administrator and mods can do what they want because they run the site. If I don't like it after raising the matter calmly and professionally, I could either: (a) drop it; (b) leave; or © cry or bitch about it. I happen to believe that there is no honor in the third choice.

[hurley97]

In the end, the administrator and mods can do what they want because they run the site. If I don't like it after raising the matter calmly and professionally, I could either: (a) drop it; (b) leave; or © cry or bitch about it. I happen to believe that there is no honor in the third choice.

well said