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> 3SGTE tuned up VS. Civic Single Cam Turboed, i know we talked about these situation b4, but i just gotta confirm wi
post Aug 2, 2006 - 11:31 AM
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kindasad.gif my friend was braggin' how great his car is and that his tuner was able to push 450 WHP on his 1995 Honda Civic, ported his engine from top to bottom and has a T3 turbo on it...piston and crank as well as all the comparments in the engine was literally changed for performance...i told him about the 3SGTE for our cars and he laughed...never heard of the GT4, but laugh and said his car will run 0-60 in 3 or 4 sec high, i forget...but he will beat the SH*T out of our cars (tuned 3SGTE engines) can this be true? a 450WHP civic single cam beating a dual cam 3SGTE?

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i wouldn't consider rpm/gear dependant boost control detuning...
but if you want to thats ok too....
i would consider that proper tuning..as well as hp levels are taken on 3rd or 4th gear dyno runs....
which is were he stated full boost comes in (3rd gear) so i don't see how its "detuned from 500hp" in 1st and 2nd..cause it doesn't make it there no matter wat...

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QUOTE(playr158 @ Aug 2, 2006 - 1:53 PM) [snapback]464550[/snapback]

i wouldn't consider rpm/gear dependant boost control detuning...
but if you want to thats ok too....
i would consider that proper tuning..


Its similar to taking your foot off the gas to avoid wheel spin. All you are doing is lessening the output of horsepower to maintain traction. So your buddies SRT4 with 500+ horsepower is really only a 250whp car when traction is an issue.

BTW, I happen to think that gear and RPM dependent boost control is a GREAT thing for all high horsepower turbo applications - particularly FWD. It allows the user to utilize the high horsepower later to go like a bat out of hell once he reaches 60mph. Lets not kid ourselves though into thinking that the car is utilizing 500hp as long as the boost controller is holding her back.


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QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]

i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.

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- chacha   3SGTE tuned up VS. Civic Single Cam Turboed   Aug 2, 2006 - 11:31 AM
- - dustin15brown   threads like this last around 10 mins....   Aug 2, 2006 - 11:38 AM
|- - jdg371   QUOTE(dustin15brown @ Aug 2, 2006 - 12...   Aug 2, 2006 - 12:07 PM
- - Culpable04   450 whp on a FWD car ?? how does he do it ? I mean...   Aug 2, 2006 - 11:40 AM
- - playr158   honestly your just going off the "ulmighty 3s...   Aug 2, 2006 - 12:52 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(playr158 @ Aug 2, 2006 - 12:52...   Aug 2, 2006 - 1:02 PM
- - lagos   take the same amount of money as your friend spent...   Aug 2, 2006 - 1:15 PM
|- - burneeed   QUOTE(lagos @ Aug 2, 2006 - 1:15 PM)...   Aug 10, 2006 - 6:35 PM
|- - ExSane   QUOTE(lagos @ Aug 2, 2006 - 1:15 PM)...   Aug 11, 2006 - 12:00 AM
- - playr158   why do you disagree? things that fall under tract...   Aug 2, 2006 - 1:19 PM
- - chacha   i was amazed when i saw the dyno on the car...but ...   Aug 2, 2006 - 1:22 PM
- - lagos   dan, what your talking about is a race car with un...   Aug 2, 2006 - 1:24 PM
- - playr158   QUOTE(lagos @ Aug 2, 2006 - 2:24 PM)...   Aug 2, 2006 - 1:29 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(playr158 @ Aug 2, 2006 - 1:29 ...   Aug 2, 2006 - 1:39 PM
- - playr158   QUOTE (in reference to an AVC-R) completely progra...   Aug 2, 2006 - 1:45 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(playr158 @ Aug 2, 2006 - 1:45 ...   Aug 2, 2006 - 1:49 PM
- - playr158   i wouldn't consider rpm/gear dependant boost c...   Aug 2, 2006 - 1:53 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(playr158 @ Aug 2, 2006 - 1:53 ...   Aug 2, 2006 - 1:58 PM
- - playr158   lol i'm not saying she's making 500whp off...   Aug 2, 2006 - 2:08 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(playr158 @ Aug 2, 2006 - 2:08 ...   Aug 2, 2006 - 3:44 PM
- - creis   bottum line a single cam turbo civic cant make 425...   Aug 2, 2006 - 5:39 PM
- - Fastbird   Here comes the domestic guy in me: For what I kno...   Aug 2, 2006 - 7:53 PM
|- - creamed_corn   QUOTE(Fastbird @ Aug 2, 2006 - 7:53 ...   Aug 2, 2006 - 9:31 PM
- - 95sweetness   a cam or cams do a lot for a car..even wit forced ...   Aug 2, 2006 - 9:52 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(95sweetness @ Aug 2, 2006 - 10...   Aug 2, 2006 - 9:58 PM
- - 95sweetness   QUOTE(lagos @ Aug 3, 2006 - 2:58 AM)...   Aug 2, 2006 - 10:02 PM
- - creis   ok its not that its just 1 cam, its that its a hon...   Aug 3, 2006 - 2:30 AM
- - Fastbird   Ok, I agree 100% that cams can do a lot for a moto...   Aug 3, 2006 - 8:09 AM
- - Consynx   i didn't read all this stuff...buuuttt he. ...   Aug 3, 2006 - 2:41 PM
- - ExSane   You are trying to compare a highly tuned and modde...   Aug 3, 2006 - 10:15 PM
|- - kenjamatic   QUOTE(ExSane @ Aug 3, 2006 - 8:15 PM...   Aug 10, 2006 - 4:05 PM
- - burneeed   Z4's .... sorry.....   Aug 11, 2006 - 12:19 AM
- - ExSane   QUOTE(burneeed @ Aug 11, 2006 - 12:1...   Aug 11, 2006 - 12:24 AM


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