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post Jul 25, 2006 - 11:25 PM
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I have swapped engines and transmissions and am running into some questions for someone that has done it. Please let me know if you have.
 
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post Aug 3, 2006 - 6:55 PM
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The engine/tranny and wiring harness - ECM/ECU came off a 1995 and the car is a 1994. The reason I changed the harness was due to the transmission having a different park/neutral connector on it and the harness for the 4A-FE was different. There may have been other connectors that were different as well. Since the majority of changed parts were 7A-FE from a 1995 I was trying to keep it all 1995 compatible.
The ECM/ECU has three connectors on it and on the 4A-FE there is a 12 Pin connector whereas on the 7A-FE there is a 22 Pin connector.
As Bitter has said - I may have a harness that is for an OBD2 car and not from a OBD1, but the harness is the same and it is the cars connection to the ECM/ECU that appears to be different.
I don't know if the donor car is still at the junkyard, but I can check the connector on that car. It was a 1995. I took both the ECM/ECU and the wiring harness from the same car - but the cars internal wires must be different. I will have to check it out.

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post Aug 3, 2006 - 7:14 PM
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QUOTE(Bikeman982 @ Aug 3, 2006 - 11:55 PM) [snapback]465093[/snapback]

The engine/tranny and wiring harness - ECM/ECU came off a 1995 and the car is a 1994. The reason I changed the harness was due to the transmission having a different park/neutral connector on it and the harness for the 4A-FE was different. There may have been other connectors that were different as well. Since the majority of changed parts were 7A-FE from a 1995 I was trying to keep it all 1995 compatible.
The ECM/ECU has three connectors on it and on the 4A-FE there is a 12 Pin connector whereas on the 7A-FE there is a 22 Pin connector.
As Bitter has said - I may have a harness that is for an OBD2 car and not from a OBD1, but the harness is the same and it is the cars connection to the ECM/ECU that appears to be different.
I don't know if the donor car is still at the junkyard, but I can check the connector on that car. It was a 1995. I took both the ECM/ECU and the wiring harness from the same car - but the cars internal wires must be different. I will have to check it out.

You're doing it the hard way. You don't need to swap harnesses or ECUs or anything like that... the 7AFE can run alright on the 4AFE ecu and wiring. All you need to do is to swap over the sensors from the 4AFE to the 7AFE... and ignore the sensors on the 7AFE that the 4AFE doesn't have. That way you can just plug in your old 4AFE harness and not have to worry about anything else. There shouldn't be too big of differences between the two... at the most you might need to splice injector plugs and swap distributors. It should be a very straight foreward swap... cause I'm pretty sure the 4AFE uses about 90% the same sensors as the 7AFE... except for a few different plugs here and there.


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- Bikeman982   Engine swap 1.6L 4A-FE to 1.8L 7A-FE   Jul 25, 2006 - 11:25 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   What questions do you have? I'd be happy to he...   Jul 26, 2006 - 8:52 AM
- - Bikeman982   I have an engine, transmission, wiring harness, an...   Jul 28, 2006 - 10:37 PM
|- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE(Bikeman982 @ Jul 29, 2006 - 3...   Jul 28, 2006 - 11:19 PM
- - Bikeman982   The stock harness does not have the correct connec...   Aug 1, 2006 - 1:22 AM
|- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE(Bikeman982 @ Aug 1, 2006 - 6:2...   Aug 3, 2006 - 9:31 AM
- - Bikeman982   Upon further examination I have discovered that th...   Aug 2, 2006 - 5:21 PM
- - Bitter   hey bike, it sounds like you have an ob2 harness m...   Aug 2, 2006 - 6:28 PM
- - Bikeman982   The engine/tranny and wiring harness - ECM/ECU cam...   Aug 3, 2006 - 6:55 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Bikeman982 @ Aug 3, 2006 - 11...   Aug 3, 2006 - 7:14 PM
- - Bikeman982   What about something similar - I swapped the engin...   Aug 3, 2006 - 7:46 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Bikeman982 @ Aug 4, 2006 - 12...   Aug 3, 2006 - 8:17 PM
- - Bitter   wouldnt the 4afe ecm make the 7afe run lean since ...   Aug 3, 2006 - 8:48 PM
|- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE(Bitter @ Aug 4, 2006 - 1:48 AM...   Aug 3, 2006 - 9:36 PM
- - Bikeman982   What about the problem with the connector and tran...   Aug 3, 2006 - 11:50 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Bikeman982 @ Aug 4, 2006 - 4:5...   Aug 3, 2006 - 11:52 PM
- - Bikeman982   The wires I am referring to connect to the Park/Ne...   Aug 4, 2006 - 1:44 AM
- - Bitter   http://www.corolland.com/forums/index.php?...30...   Aug 4, 2006 - 10:27 PM
|- - Bikeman982   QUOTE(Bitter @ Aug 4, 2006 - 10:27 P...   Aug 4, 2006 - 11:44 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Bikeman982 @ Aug 5, 2006 - 4:4...   Aug 5, 2006 - 12:44 AM
|- - Bikeman982   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Aug 5, 2006 - 12:44...   Aug 8, 2006 - 1:41 AM
- - Bitter   i think he wants the 4spd auto with the 7afe for f...   Aug 5, 2006 - 11:05 AM
- - Bikeman982   After careful examination of the cars wiring and a...   Aug 8, 2006 - 5:10 PM
- - Kwanza26   I still say the tranny issue can be dealt with pre...   Aug 11, 2006 - 3:25 AM
- - Bikeman982   Transmissions are not the same. The main problem n...   Aug 11, 2006 - 3:32 AM
- - Bikeman982   I have abandoned the larger engine/tranny and pull...   Aug 18, 2006 - 3:19 AM
- - Bikeman982   I had trouble (once again) when matching the trans...   Aug 19, 2006 - 9:01 PM
- - Bikeman982   Tomorrow I start connecting everything back up and...   Aug 25, 2006 - 3:22 PM
- - Bikeman982   UPDATE: Today I installed the starter, the charcoa...   Sep 5, 2006 - 12:11 AM
- - Bikeman982   Everything but the drive shafts have been installe...   Sep 13, 2006 - 12:37 AM
- - Bikeman982   I bought a new battery and the car cranked fine - ...   Sep 15, 2006 - 7:29 PM
- - Bikeman982   Here is an update. Car would not start and did n...   Jan 12, 2007 - 10:45 PM
- - normality78   hm... weird. i personally had my 4afe engine chang...   Jan 18, 2007 - 11:33 PM
|- - Bikeman982   QUOTE(normality78 @ Jan 18, 2007 - 11...   Jan 19, 2007 - 12:11 AM
|- - normality78   QUOTE(Bikeman982 @ Jan 19, 2007 - 12...   Jan 19, 2007 - 12:03 PM
- - Bikeman982   Update: The car has been sold to a man looking for...   Jan 26, 2007 - 11:07 PM


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