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post Jul 25, 2006 - 11:25 PM
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I have swapped engines and transmissions and am running into some questions for someone that has done it. Please let me know if you have.
 
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post Aug 3, 2006 - 7:46 PM
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What about something similar - I swapped the engine/tranny and wiring harness - can I use the old 1.6L 4A-FE ECM/ECU, since it plugs right in?
What about the wires that are not on the 12 pin connector from the car that are used on the 22 pin on the 7A-FE ECM/ECU?
What about the engines crankcase position sensor - just ignore it?
Someone has told me that the 1.6L 4A-FE engine uses a hydraulic shift transmission, while the 1.8L 7A-FE engine uses a computer controlled electronic shift transmission - is this true? What does that mean as far as the swap? Don't both use the ECM/ECU to electrically control shifting??

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post Aug 3, 2006 - 8:17 PM
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QUOTE(Bikeman982 @ Aug 4, 2006 - 12:46 AM) [snapback]465115[/snapback]

What about something similar - I swapped the engine/tranny and wiring harness - can I use the old 1.6L 4A-FE ECM/ECU, since it plugs right in?

Use your old 4AFE engine harness and ecu... and primary sensors that have different plugs. Avoid using the 7AFE harness and ecu.
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What about the wires that are not on the 12 pin connector from the car that are used on the 22 pin on the 7A-FE ECM/ECU?

Refer to above. Don't change the engine harness... use your exsisting 4AFE harness.
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What about the engines crankcase position sensor - just ignore it?
Someone has told me that the 1.6L 4A-FE engine uses a hydraulic shift transmission, while the 1.8L 7A-FE engine uses a computer controlled electronic shift transmission - is this true? What does that mean as far as the swap? Don't both use the ECM/ECU to electrically control shifting??

Is it automatic? All autos are computer controlled mostly for speed inputs and stuff... manuals are either hydro or cable... but toyota did away with cable trannies in the mid 80's... so this should not be a factor. The 5 speeds are the same. Ignore the crank sensor.


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- Bikeman982   Engine swap 1.6L 4A-FE to 1.8L 7A-FE   Jul 25, 2006 - 11:25 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   What questions do you have? I'd be happy to he...   Jul 26, 2006 - 8:52 AM
- - Bikeman982   I have an engine, transmission, wiring harness, an...   Jul 28, 2006 - 10:37 PM
|- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE(Bikeman982 @ Jul 29, 2006 - 3...   Jul 28, 2006 - 11:19 PM
- - Bikeman982   The stock harness does not have the correct connec...   Aug 1, 2006 - 1:22 AM
|- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE(Bikeman982 @ Aug 1, 2006 - 6:2...   Aug 3, 2006 - 9:31 AM
- - Bikeman982   Upon further examination I have discovered that th...   Aug 2, 2006 - 5:21 PM
- - Bitter   hey bike, it sounds like you have an ob2 harness m...   Aug 2, 2006 - 6:28 PM
- - Bikeman982   The engine/tranny and wiring harness - ECM/ECU cam...   Aug 3, 2006 - 6:55 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Bikeman982 @ Aug 3, 2006 - 11...   Aug 3, 2006 - 7:14 PM
- - Bikeman982   What about something similar - I swapped the engin...   Aug 3, 2006 - 7:46 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Bikeman982 @ Aug 4, 2006 - 12...   Aug 3, 2006 - 8:17 PM
- - Bitter   wouldnt the 4afe ecm make the 7afe run lean since ...   Aug 3, 2006 - 8:48 PM
|- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE(Bitter @ Aug 4, 2006 - 1:48 AM...   Aug 3, 2006 - 9:36 PM
- - Bikeman982   What about the problem with the connector and tran...   Aug 3, 2006 - 11:50 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Bikeman982 @ Aug 4, 2006 - 4:5...   Aug 3, 2006 - 11:52 PM
- - Bikeman982   The wires I am referring to connect to the Park/Ne...   Aug 4, 2006 - 1:44 AM
- - Bitter   http://www.corolland.com/forums/index.php?...30...   Aug 4, 2006 - 10:27 PM
|- - Bikeman982   QUOTE(Bitter @ Aug 4, 2006 - 10:27 P...   Aug 4, 2006 - 11:44 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Bikeman982 @ Aug 5, 2006 - 4:4...   Aug 5, 2006 - 12:44 AM
|- - Bikeman982   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Aug 5, 2006 - 12:44...   Aug 8, 2006 - 1:41 AM
- - Bitter   i think he wants the 4spd auto with the 7afe for f...   Aug 5, 2006 - 11:05 AM
- - Bikeman982   After careful examination of the cars wiring and a...   Aug 8, 2006 - 5:10 PM
- - Kwanza26   I still say the tranny issue can be dealt with pre...   Aug 11, 2006 - 3:25 AM
- - Bikeman982   Transmissions are not the same. The main problem n...   Aug 11, 2006 - 3:32 AM
- - Bikeman982   I have abandoned the larger engine/tranny and pull...   Aug 18, 2006 - 3:19 AM
- - Bikeman982   I had trouble (once again) when matching the trans...   Aug 19, 2006 - 9:01 PM
- - Bikeman982   Tomorrow I start connecting everything back up and...   Aug 25, 2006 - 3:22 PM
- - Bikeman982   UPDATE: Today I installed the starter, the charcoa...   Sep 5, 2006 - 12:11 AM
- - Bikeman982   Everything but the drive shafts have been installe...   Sep 13, 2006 - 12:37 AM
- - Bikeman982   I bought a new battery and the car cranked fine - ...   Sep 15, 2006 - 7:29 PM
- - Bikeman982   Here is an update. Car would not start and did n...   Jan 12, 2007 - 10:45 PM
- - normality78   hm... weird. i personally had my 4afe engine chang...   Jan 18, 2007 - 11:33 PM
|- - Bikeman982   QUOTE(normality78 @ Jan 18, 2007 - 11...   Jan 19, 2007 - 12:11 AM
|- - normality78   QUOTE(Bikeman982 @ Jan 19, 2007 - 12...   Jan 19, 2007 - 12:03 PM
- - Bikeman982   Update: The car has been sold to a man looking for...   Jan 26, 2007 - 11:07 PM


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