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post Aug 12, 2006 - 7:38 PM
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I've heard talk of people thinking about it but have never seen any factual attempts. These things need a sixth gear.

I was pondering, and it probably wouldn't be toooooooo terribly difficult to have a bell housing adapter made for something like a 7th gen and then have a custom input shaft in a longer length made.

Are there any other ideas floating around out there?


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post Aug 12, 2006 - 8:08 PM
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My reasoning is that on the highway I can't stand trying to maintain 80 MPH whilst turning 4000 RPM. If I could get an overdrive and cut that down some to the 2500 range, these things would be PERFECT on the highway.

What does toyota make in a transaxle configuration with a six speed??


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post Aug 12, 2006 - 8:53 PM
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QUOTE(Fastbird @ Aug 13, 2006 - 1:08 AM) [snapback]468310[/snapback]

My reasoning is that on the highway I can't stand trying to maintain 80 MPH whilst turning 4000 RPM. If I could get an overdrive and cut that down some to the 2500 range, these things would be PERFECT on the highway.

What does toyota make in a transaxle configuration with a six speed??

Toyota makes the C60/C160 and that's it. Regardless of having 6 gears or not... the C160/C60 final drive and gearing is very short and you'll still be at around 3500 rpms at 80mph in 6th gear... similar to what we are currently.

And no... it doesn't really make a big difference if he has a 3SGTE or not... in fact, the bigger the torque, the worse a short gear'ed tranny would be for it acceleration-wise. Pushing acceleration towards the top rpms negates that fat torque-band...


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Posts in this topic
- Fastbird   Six Speed in a 6GC   Aug 12, 2006 - 7:38 PM
- - WH95TE   Would be neat.   Aug 12, 2006 - 7:50 PM
- - dustinkemp   i think you volunteered yourself lol nah but it w...   Aug 12, 2006 - 7:55 PM
- - Kwanza26   yeah... but gearing would be very poor for the 5SF...   Aug 12, 2006 - 7:55 PM
- - gt_driFFter   I don't know if it makes a different, but he d...   Aug 12, 2006 - 7:59 PM
- - Fastbird   My reasoning is that on the highway I can't st...   Aug 12, 2006 - 8:08 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Fastbird @ Aug 13, 2006 - 1:08...   Aug 12, 2006 - 8:53 PM
|- - o0black0o   QUOTE(Fastbird @ Aug 12, 2006 - 8:08...   Aug 15, 2006 - 7:37 AM
- - lagos   QUOTEMy reasoning is that on the highway I can...   Aug 12, 2006 - 9:07 PM
- - playr158   you don't need 6 gears... we need taller gears...   Aug 12, 2006 - 9:56 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   Using the 7th gen GTS tranny would pretty much be ...   Aug 14, 2006 - 9:20 PM
- - j0e_p3t   hasn't anyone tried swapping a 6 speed blackto...   Aug 14, 2006 - 11:16 PM
- - burneeed   theres a guy in ... I think hes somewhere in europ...   Aug 15, 2006 - 12:01 AM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   Yeah, our cars really need a 6th gear or a much lo...   Aug 15, 2006 - 12:35 AM
- - DEAMON   how much money and who woudl make it the 7th gen...   Aug 15, 2006 - 1:15 AM
- - hitcachi   Best solution and fastest way to a 6 speed celica ...   Aug 15, 2006 - 1:39 AM
- - playr158   like i already said someone needs to take the OEM ...   Aug 15, 2006 - 1:41 AM
|- - burneeed   QUOTE(playr158 @ Aug 15, 2006 - 1:41...   Aug 15, 2006 - 5:14 PM
- - Fastbird   Does anyone have the gear ratios and final drive r...   Aug 15, 2006 - 7:44 AM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(Fastbird @ Aug 15, 2006 - 6:44...   Aug 15, 2006 - 9:38 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   id buy a longer finally gear. 80mph at 4k sucks wh...   Aug 15, 2006 - 9:57 AM
- - Kadett   QUOTE(celicaST @ Aug 15, 2006 - 4:38...   Aug 15, 2006 - 12:34 PM
- - dutchboy   Could you put the e153 5th gear in the ST's C5...   Jun 28, 2007 - 4:41 PM
- - mandrek   im quite curiouse about this too.. is it not posib...   Oct 10, 2007 - 2:34 AM
- - frosty   QUOTE(playr158 @ Aug 15, 2006 - 6:41...   Oct 10, 2007 - 8:46 AM
|- - twitchh17   QUOTE(frosty @ Oct 10, 2007 - 8:46 A...   Oct 16, 2007 - 7:09 PM
- - dutchboy   QUOTE (dutchboy @ Jun 28, 2007 - 4:4...   Sep 27, 2008 - 2:49 PM
- - richee3   Man, a 6 speed would be crazy... I'd love to h...   Sep 27, 2008 - 3:49 PM
- - Daftboy   I believe that the blacktop 4age 6 speed fits righ...   Sep 27, 2008 - 3:58 PM
- - delusionz   i can only think of trying bigger wheels and a spe...   Sep 28, 2008 - 5:09 AM
- - presure2   e135 FTMFBBQ win in the celica, with a swap. 100+M...   Sep 28, 2008 - 1:25 PM
- - 3SGTE-auto   As some of you may or may not know, I plan to mate...   Oct 7, 2008 - 5:26 AM
- - playr158   and how do you plan on controlling said tranny   Oct 7, 2008 - 8:55 AM
- - devilsden97   ^Aussie magic ofcourse....kinda like pix dust. but...   Oct 7, 2008 - 8:58 AM
- - reko   And here comes the solution You are viewing a bra...   Oct 7, 2008 - 9:16 AM
- - Redline08   QUOTE Now Only : USD 2969.77 wow   Oct 7, 2008 - 12:28 PM
- - azian_advanced   i'm surprised C-ONE isn't bankrupt yet... ...   Oct 7, 2008 - 3:10 PM
- - GriffGirl   Some day I will have the blacktop w/the 6 speed tr...   Oct 7, 2008 - 3:16 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   Actually the idea of running larger tires would be...   Oct 7, 2008 - 3:28 PM
|- - 3SGTE-auto   Hi all, Reco's post regarding the C-ONE is no...   Oct 8, 2008 - 6:32 AM
- - 99GT   QUOTE (3SGTE-auto @ Oct 8, 2008 - 1...   Oct 8, 2008 - 6:48 AM
- - CPleasure   Thought I'd bring this sucker back =] was any...   May 5, 2009 - 2:12 AM
- - pittfirefighter   who needs longer gears in the e153!?!? i ...   May 5, 2009 - 3:06 AM
- - playr158   ^110 mph is sloow :shhhhhhh:   May 5, 2009 - 6:14 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (playr158 @ May 5, 2009 - 6:14...   May 5, 2009 - 8:11 AM
- - playr158   hey my celica rocked 110mph ..down hill, wit...   May 5, 2009 - 9:29 AM
- - pittfirefighter   still didn't answer my question.. lol i wasn...   May 5, 2009 - 12:39 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (pittfirefighter @ May 5, 2009 - 5...   May 6, 2009 - 12:11 PM
|- - Fastbird   QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ May 6, 2009 - 12:1...   May 6, 2009 - 12:44 PM
|- - alltracman78   QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ May 6, 2009 - 12:1...   May 6, 2009 - 1:05 PM
- - 92-gt   QUOTE (playr158 @ May 5, 2009 - 10:2...   May 6, 2009 - 2:06 PM
- - Draku   I had a lot of fun with my old camry 1991 se 5 spe...   May 8, 2009 - 1:27 AM
- - terbear4god4life   i hit 120..... and woulda keep going if i had ball...   Jun 1, 2009 - 4:52 AM


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