the 4th gen 3s....(aka st215), people dont seem to like it much? Options

[easternpiro1]

ive been researching about the 215 swap that the good DR will be putting in for me and ive gotten alot of good advice, what i dont understand fully is how can the st215 be so different from the 185 and the 205? i was told looking for replacement parts would be a NIGHTMARE if at all possible, but the engine is mostly identical to an st185 and 205. im confused, someone please clear this up for me and provide more insight!

This post has been edited by easternpiro1: Aug 24, 2006 - 6:20 PM

[CelicaB]

piro im not sure if you wanna listen to me (i mean what do i know) but uhh heres my 2 cents

Anyways all my lame joking aside the only thing now is deciding if your going to build the motor later. If your going to be happy with the 260 (i think thats what the ST215 puts out) and not going to be upgrading later (and tweak doesnt mind the wiring)then deffenatly go for it. However if your going to be tearing the motor down next winter to upgrade the internals, bigger turbo, headwork, standalone ECU all the good stuff then going with your basic 2nd or 3rd gen wouldnt hurt either.

But anyways no matter what route you go i personally think its gonna cost about the same to get the motor into the car whether it be the ST215 motor putting out 260 and you having to pay a little bit more for tweak to do the wiring. Or you get the basic 2nd gen and putting a few dollars toward bolt ons to get to about 260. (which is where deciding if you really wanna build the motor later comes in)

Either way i think your getting your 3s for a real good deal because of your patience (even though i know you want to feel 3s power in your car right away) and all of your searching -thats the most important part man

Whatever you decide to do good luck with it and i know youll love it
-Bryan

thats basically what went through my head when i picked my motor and everything and i gotta get in a good NC meet when im back down there

This post has been edited by CelicaB: Aug 24, 2006 - 8:59 PM

[easternpiro1]

piro im not sure if you wanna listen to me (i mean what do i know) but uhh heres my 2 cents

Anyways all my lame joking aside the only thing now is deciding if your going to build the motor later. If your going to be happy with the 260 (i think thats what the ST215 puts out) and not going to be upgrading later (and tweak doesnt mind the wiring)then deffenatly go for it. However if your going to be tearing the motor down next winter to upgrade the internals, bigger turbo, headwork, standalone ECU all the good stuff then going with your basic 2nd or 3rd gen wouldnt hurt either.

But anyways no matter what route you go i personally think its gonna cost about the same to get the motor into the car whether it be the ST215 motor putting out 260 and you having to pay a little bit more for tweak to do the wiring. Or you get the basic 2nd gen and putting a few dollars toward bolt ons to get to about 260. (which is where deciding if you really wanna build the motor later comes in)

Either way i think your getting your 3s for a real good deal because of your patience (even though i know you want to feel 3s power in your car right away) and all of your searching -thats the most important part man

Whatever you decide to do good luck with it and i know youll love it
-Bryan

thats basically what went through my head when i picked my motor and everything and i gotta get in a good NC meet when im back down there

of course i'll listen to ya brian! im sure that i will be happy with the 260 with only minor upgrades, im not trying to go crazy, im happy with something that can keep up with a slightly modded evo or subaru and that should be easy to obtain. i know that i may need to upgrade the turbo, but i really dont want anything too high in the 300s because its just asking for more problems, and thats the LAST thing i want. u know me... got things to SEE and people to DO. lol (no homo)

and yes u DO have to get back in nc!