the 4th gen 3s....(aka st215), people dont seem to like it much? Options

[easternpiro1]

ive been researching about the 215 swap that the good DR will be putting in for me and ive gotten alot of good advice, what i dont understand fully is how can the st215 be so different from the 185 and the 205? i was told looking for replacement parts would be a NIGHTMARE if at all possible, but the engine is mostly identical to an st185 and 205. im confused, someone please clear this up for me and provide more insight!

This post has been edited by easternpiro1: Aug 24, 2006 - 6:20 PM

[Punisher]

I laugh at this thread. No one has even brought up any ideas on WHY the 4th gen makes more power than the previous gens. Frankly to me it is very obvious. I also don't see where you guys are getting 260hp from.. that dyno showed 232... A 2nd gen with a FMIC can make near that power.

The reasons the 4th gen makes more power is because of a far superior intake manifold design and a better turbo.. also no AFM helps to free up the intake tract and the ignition system is a bit more robust, plus better ecu maps for ign./fuel.

I've also heard that the exhaust manifold on the 4th gen is actually molded with the head.. as in, the exhaust manifold and head are one piece... I don't know if that is true or not. I do know that the turbo is definitly part of the manifold.

My 2c... get a 2nd gen and build it. Even with that swap, I'd still rape you at the track

[BLADDER_MASTER]

I laugh at this thread. No one has even brought up any ideas on WHY the 4th gen makes more power than the previous gens. Frankly to me it is very obvious. I also don't see where you guys are getting 260hp from.. that dyno showed 232... A 2nd gen with a FMIC can make near that power.

Dyno was done @ 11 psi. Stock run @ 14 psi.

Since we're getting into specifics, the later generation of 3SGTEs have a stronger block that can handle upwards of 700hp. The older ones had trouble cracking through the cylinder wall into the water jacket.

+1.