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post Aug 24, 2006 - 1:02 AM
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Well all my posting and talking to jdg and boosted on the autocross thread has me really going! My current set-up is as stands: 3 point front strut bar, 2 point rear strut bar. Front and rear Suspension techniques sway bars. Intrax lowering springs. JIC lower frame brace in the mail. and KYB GR-2's pending this question. I have a sport option GT. Should i replace the sealed struts with new ones (yes im willing to pay) or go source some other struts and install gr-2's? Also tires are being taking care of as well so thats no big thing. I need some more advice on what to do about the shocks though. Thanks!


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post Aug 24, 2006 - 12:14 PM
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QUOTE(playr158 @ Aug 24, 2006 - 9:39 AM) [snapback]472368[/snapback]

get konis if your serious about autox the right way....you'll need the adjustment....invest in some camber plates from cusco http://www.japanparts.com/ (hint look under the ST205 it will fit)

wat size tires and wheels are you using..that makes a drastic affect

and for the fender braces...they are easy to make...long as you know someone with a welder smile.gif they can be made for about 20$

Thanks dan for all the info. Honestly, i havent done much research into the koni's, but thats why i posted this. The camber plates i might hold off on for now. What sucks is i gotta go source some damn non sealed struts first. I can probably get some fender braces made by my local muffler shop. I know the guy pretty well.
I going to keep my 16 in. GTS wheels on and just put a wide ass tire on them. I would like to put on something bigger like.....a 17 but the intrax springs were a huge drop.
QUOTE(boosted_K2 @ Aug 24, 2006 - 10:18 AM) [snapback]472371[/snapback]

#1 thing to do is once your suspension is solid and its at a place where you plan to leave it for a while is get a custom alignment.

Can you explain a little more what you mean by a custom alignment. I was going to take it to a shop that specializes (i cant spell right now, please excuse) in suspension work. Little place called Inline Suspension. But i guess im not sure what your talking about.

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post Aug 26, 2006 - 5:23 PM
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QUOTE(hitcachi @ Aug 24, 2006 - 12:14 PM) [snapback]472400[/snapback]


Honestly, i havent done much research into the koni's, but thats why i posted this. The camber plates i might hold off on for now. What sucks is i gotta go source some damn non sealed struts first.



No need to get non-sealed struts. The Konis for the rear are designed to use the existing sealed strut body in the rear. You just have to cut off the top of the strut and add a bolt hole to the bottom. Once I had all the necessary tools it took about an hour per strut. Fronts were faster since they already take inserts. If you want to spend even more $$$ then you can have Koni modify the shocks to make them double adjustable and modify the valving to suit your needs.

QUOTE(hitcachi @ Aug 24, 2006 - 12:14 PM) [snapback]472400[/snapback]

Can you explain a little more what you mean by a custom alignment. I was going to take it to a shop that specializes (i cant spell right now, please excuse) in suspension work. Little place called Inline Suspension. But i guess im not sure what your talking about.


I am running -2.5 degrees of camber on the front wheels. For a normal alignment most shops will just adjust the toe. Since camber is not adjustable on our cars you will need to install camber plates or camber bolts. Camber plates are much easier to work with. I would have done them but they aren't allowed for stock autoX classes. I installed the crash bolts instead. I would recommend going to a place that does autoX alignments. I went to a normal shop and had to explain to the mechanic how to adjust the camber. Once he understood what needed to be done he did a decent job but it was annoying that I had to tell him how to do it.
post Aug 27, 2006 - 1:43 AM
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QUOTE(andrewb0x29a @ Aug 26, 2006 - 5:23 PM) [snapback]473173[/snapback]



I am running -2.5 degrees of camber on the front wheels. For a normal alignment most shops will just adjust the toe. Since camber is not adjustable on our cars you will need to install camber plates or camber bolts. Camber plates are much easier to work with. I would have done them but they aren't allowed for stock autoX classes. I installed the crash bolts instead. I would recommend going to a place that does autoX alignments. I went to a normal shop and had to explain to the mechanic how to adjust the camber. Once he understood what needed to be done he did a decent job but it was annoying that I had to tell him how to do it.

so with you -2.5 degrees of front camber, you tires wear faster, but you have....less understeer? What is it getting you? And I've always been under the impression that celicas have slightly ajustable camber from the factory..., also explain more about the custom work with the rear struts? Sorry for the questions, i just believe that these cars have alot of potential through the suspension.


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- hitcachi   Proper suspension set-up   Aug 24, 2006 - 1:02 AM
- - DeW_H0e_GT   i have the same setup except for the springs.....y...   Aug 24, 2006 - 8:31 AM
- - playr158   get konis if your serious about autox the right wa...   Aug 24, 2006 - 9:39 AM
- - boosted_K2   #1 thing to do is once your suspension is solid an...   Aug 24, 2006 - 10:18 AM
- - Tech9ine   I wish I had bought these bad boys instead of my G...   Aug 24, 2006 - 10:46 AM
- - playr158   QUOTE(Tech9ine @ Aug 24, 2006 - 11:4...   Aug 24, 2006 - 11:18 AM
- - hitcachi   QUOTE(playr158 @ Aug 24, 2006 - 9:39...   Aug 24, 2006 - 12:14 PM
|- - andrewb0x29a   QUOTE(hitcachi @ Aug 24, 2006 - 12:1...   Aug 26, 2006 - 5:23 PM
|- - hitcachi   QUOTE(andrewb0x29a @ Aug 26, 2006 - 5...   Aug 27, 2006 - 1:43 AM
|- - andrewb0x29a   QUOTE(hitcachi @ Aug 27, 2006 - 1:43...   Aug 28, 2006 - 4:21 PM
- - boosted_K2   if you are going ot autocross it you DONT want the...   Aug 24, 2006 - 12:30 PM
- - jdg371   When I start collection suspension parts im bringi...   Aug 24, 2006 - 1:44 PM
- - LewFX   if you want the whole strut from kyb then order th...   Aug 24, 2006 - 2:35 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   I've got some pretty extreme camber. I don...   Aug 24, 2006 - 9:07 PM
|- - hitcachi   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Aug 24, 2006 - ...   Aug 25, 2006 - 12:49 AM
- - jdg371   you want adjustment for motorsport! haha How ...   Aug 25, 2006 - 6:11 AM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(hitcachi @ Aug 25, 2006 - 1:49...   Aug 28, 2006 - 9:31 AM
- - hitcachi   hmmm, i might have to try it as a cheaper alternat...   Aug 29, 2006 - 1:47 AM
|- - andrewb0x29a   QUOTE(hitcachi @ Aug 29, 2006 - 1:47...   Aug 29, 2006 - 6:40 AM
- - boosted_K2   yikes $200 for a custom alignment, that was e...   Aug 29, 2006 - 8:03 AM
|- - andrewb0x29a   QUOTE(boosted_K2 @ Aug 29, 2006 - 8...   Aug 29, 2006 - 12:19 PM
- - hitcachi   i want to get some decent shocks in but koni's...   Aug 29, 2006 - 9:56 AM
- - boosted_K2   you have to pay attention to rim width, you should...   Aug 29, 2006 - 12:00 PM
- - boosted_K2   ya, i was in the same situation, i needed it done ...   Aug 29, 2006 - 12:28 PM
- - jdg371   hmm is 65 for a custom alignment a good price? Im...   Aug 29, 2006 - 2:44 PM
|- - andrewb0x29a   QUOTE(jdg371 @ Aug 29, 2006 - 2:44 P...   Aug 29, 2006 - 5:02 PM
- - boosted_K2   make sure its 65 for a 4 wheel alignment, thats ho...   Aug 29, 2006 - 5:08 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(boosted_K2 @ Aug 29, 2006 - 9...   Aug 29, 2006 - 9:36 PM
- - boosted_K2   2.5% of what?   Aug 29, 2006 - 10:58 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(boosted_K2 @ Aug 29, 2006 - 11...   Aug 29, 2006 - 11:28 PM
- - hitcachi   i dunno, i guess im still kinda lost. There are ju...   Aug 30, 2006 - 1:20 AM
- - jdg371   wow.. I believe this is SAD.. this is the 6gc comm...   Aug 30, 2006 - 1:41 AM
|- - hitcachi   QUOTE(jdg371 @ Aug 30, 2006 - 1:41 A...   Aug 30, 2006 - 1:52 AM
- - jdg371   the small % of the 6gcs members (4-5of us) that ac...   Aug 30, 2006 - 2:00 AM
|- - boosted_K2   QUOTE(jdg371 @ Aug 30, 2006 - 3:00 A...   Aug 30, 2006 - 7:36 AM
|- - hitcachi   QUOTE(boosted_K2 @ Aug 30, 2006 - 7...   Aug 30, 2006 - 9:49 AM
- - speedy   so guys what about a quality coil over setup? or i...   Aug 30, 2006 - 2:51 AM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   I think just about the most thorough suspension se...   Sep 3, 2006 - 3:27 AM
|- - boosted_K2   QUOTE(Silver94CelicaOwner @ Sep 3, 2006 ...   Sep 5, 2006 - 12:07 AM
- - beno   what are fender braces?   Sep 11, 2006 - 6:30 PM
- - airfron   here you go beno fender braces also called side-to...   Sep 12, 2006 - 12:15 AM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(airfron @ Sep 12, 2006 - 1:15 ...   Sep 14, 2006 - 12:31 PM
- - DeW_H0e_GT   pm dg performance.....   Sep 14, 2006 - 2:46 PM


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