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post Sep 17, 2006 - 9:07 AM
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here is a pic of a toyota 5sfe timing belt with ~100k on it..it came outta itchyb's old 5sfe.
this is the reason toyota recommends doing the timing belt every 60k.



good stuff, heh heh.. laugh.gif
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post Sep 17, 2006 - 5:50 PM
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QUOTE(Steevo @ Sep 17, 2006 - 6:40 PM) [snapback]480728[/snapback]

Hey Doc.




Have you seen alot of front seals go on the 7AFE's? or valve cover gaskets? I had my valve cover gasket replaced as it was leaking. He said he front seal looked OK and wasn't leaking at all.


And I see my water pump on the back side of the engine in the open? And changine it seems to be a simple job. Any reason that I should be worried at 100K + miles?

Anyone else have problems with the alternator belt squealing on 3-2 downshifts where you redline the engine? (RPM matched)


A lot? No, not really. They generally start going bad after 100K, but usually they leak very little so it's not a big problem, it's just a good thing to replace while it's all apart. The valve cover gaskets seem to go bad more often, but are also much easier to replace, especially on a 7A. The water pump isn't hard to change either, and if it's not leaking, I would't worry about it. The squealing just sounds like you need to tighten up the belt a little.


QUOTE(creamed_corn @ Sep 17, 2006 - 7:16 PM) [snapback]480734[/snapback]

QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Sep 17, 2006 - 11:30 AM) [snapback]480706[/snapback]

QUOTE(creamed_corn @ Sep 17, 2006 - 4:28 PM) [snapback]480705[/snapback]

QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Sep 17, 2006 - 11:00 AM) [snapback]480697[/snapback]

QUOTE(jess_i_74 @ Sep 17, 2006 - 3:39 PM) [snapback]480690[/snapback]

How much does a timing belt change cost (ballpark) on a 7a?


I'd do it for like $650.

-Doc


Wow.

Maybe that's the going rate where you are; I have a Toyota Dealership in Milwaukee offer to change mine (5S) for 170 (parts and labor)... I'm sure you'd probably throw in a water pump, though.


Never wish for a timing chain. They can still fail (look at the problems Volkswagen has with their 1.8T). Plus timing chain engines are almost always interference, so when they do go, your engine is essentially done.


$170? I call BS biggrin.gif

But yeah that's everything on the front of the engine, front main seal, water pump, belts, etc. I always recommend getting it all done at one while it's all apart anyway.


Dead serious, Doc! This is what I was told last winter. Call them up and ask how much theyd charge for a timing belt replacement on a 2.2L 94 Celica. I was calling all around the state out of sheer curiousity just to see what people were quoting, and I got anywhere from 170 to 300 dollars (the final guy I went with did it for 220, mainly because his shop was 100 yards downhill from me and I could push my lifeless car there without paying for a tow).


Andew Toyota, Milwaukee Wisconsin -- 1-888-229-1466 (be sure to get in touch with the service department) let me know what they say!


You know, after I thought about it, I realized I was thinking 3SGTE. The 5S is easier to change since it only has one cam gear and it's easier to access. In fact, I've never done a timing belt on a 5S! LOL smile.gif

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Posts in this topic
- presure2   Why you should change your timing belt every 60k   Sep 17, 2006 - 9:07 AM
- - Bitter   i inspected my 60k old belt at 120K on the dot, it...   Sep 17, 2006 - 9:15 AM
|- - 94GT   QUOTE(Bitter @ Sep 17, 2006 - 7:15 A...   Sep 17, 2006 - 12:47 PM
|- - hitcachi   QUOTE(94GT @ Sep 17, 2006 - 12:47 PM...   Sep 17, 2006 - 12:50 PM
- - Steevo   Mine looked like that.   Sep 17, 2006 - 10:08 AM
- - jess_i_74   How much does a timing belt change cost (ballpark)...   Sep 17, 2006 - 10:39 AM
|- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE(jess_i_74 @ Sep 17, 2006 - 3:3...   Sep 17, 2006 - 11:00 AM
|- - creamed_corn   QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Sep 17, 2006 - 11:0...   Sep 17, 2006 - 11:28 AM
|- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE(creamed_corn @ Sep 17, 2006 - 4...   Sep 17, 2006 - 11:30 AM
|- - creamed_corn   QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Sep 17, 2006 - 11:3...   Sep 17, 2006 - 2:16 PM
- - Steevo   Hey Doc. Have you seen alot of front seals go ...   Sep 17, 2006 - 1:40 PM
- - Bitter   i pulled the side cover below the valve cover and ...   Sep 17, 2006 - 5:05 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE(Steevo @ Sep 17, 2006 - 6:40 P...   Sep 17, 2006 - 5:50 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   HHAAHA thats awesome!! sweet man glad it d...   Sep 19, 2006 - 12:06 PM
- - bufferdan   I'll change mine when it breaks probably   Sep 19, 2006 - 1:49 PM
|- - phonex98   QUOTE(bufferdan @ Sep 19, 2006 - 11...   Sep 19, 2006 - 2:38 PM
- - Bitter   7A-FE is non interference, its really hard to get ...   Sep 19, 2006 - 3:08 PM
|- - phonex98   QUOTE(Bitter @ Sep 19, 2006 - 1:08 P...   Sep 19, 2006 - 3:33 PM
- - CelicaZR   I know you've to change the timing belt every ...   Sep 19, 2006 - 6:41 PM
- - 6gsillyca   does anyone know if 3's interference engines o...   Sep 20, 2006 - 2:09 AM
- - presure2   all 3 engines (7A 5S 3S) are all non interference   Sep 20, 2006 - 6:01 AM
- - 6gsillyca   Oops sorry, bad engrish in last post, if anyone wa...   Sep 20, 2006 - 2:21 PM
- - Batman722   well we got mine out this past weekend, the belt d...   May 1, 2007 - 12:23 AM
- - Ve1Ls1dEvolutioN   wow i need to change mine....139,000 miles...origi...   May 24, 2007 - 1:34 AM
- - hurley97   you don't have to change the tensioner but its...   May 24, 2007 - 10:36 AM
- - Ve1Ls1dEvolutioN   QUOTE(hurley97 @ May 24, 2007 - 8:36...   May 24, 2007 - 11:31 AM


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