A Challenge to the community Options

[boosted_K2]

Personally I have become increasingly agitated at the amount of people posting incorrect information and unbackable claims... its one thing to post to discuss it, but when you are posting "as fact" you need to make sure your facts are correct. In my honest to god opinion it would be beneficial for a good portion of the forum's members to stop posting for a while and go read a few automotive and/or engineering books or hell... even for the laziest of people, go over to howstuffworks.com or wikipedia.com and just start searching automotive related topics that you "THINK" you know about, they dumb it down so much anyone can understand it, but its technical enough to give you a much better understanding.... I challenge all of you to do it and come back with certifiable evidence to have intelligent conversations with each other, and hopefully make me feel like an idiot at some point and prove me wrong. I am not saying I know everything (hell, I don’t have a clue on a lot of things, I usually just say I don’t have a clue instead of making **** up), I'm not saying there aren’t any good or informative topics on here (skimming through a lot of the FI forum proves that), but just in general I feel this would be beneficial.

My other challenge is to understand WHY you are doing a certain modification. One thing that really bewilders me is suspension modification. Why do you spend money on body braces and sway bars and fender braces... how is that cost justified? If you are doing it for the look or the show of the part then fine I can’t have any disagreement with that. But IMO people need to start asking "what am I trying to accomplish with my setup" before they start part shopping. Save yourself the time and money by formulating a plan before attacking.

Ok, my rants over, thanks for reading.

[CelicaGT04]

well its not like he is trying to say anyone here is stupid or should never post. its more of a think before you speak kind of thing. If you had an experience relating to the topic then post your experience and what you did to fix it. But what he is saying that if you do that don't preach that the way you solved it is THE way to solve it.

thats what i got out of what he is saying anyways.

Personally I have become increasingly agitated at the amount of people posting incorrect information and unbackable claims... its one thing to post to discuss it, but when you are posting "as fact" you need to make sure your facts are correct. In my honest to god opinion it would be beneficial for a good portion of the forum's members to stop posting for a while and go read a few automotive and/or engineering books or hell... even for the laziest of people, go over to howstuffworks.com or wikipedia.com and just start searching automotive related topics that you "THINK" you know about, they dumb it down so much anyone can understand it, but its technical enough to give you a much better understanding.... I challenge all of you to do it and come back with certifiable evidence to have intelligent conversations with each other, and hopefully make me feel like an idiot at some point and prove me wrong. I am not saying I know everything (hell, I don’t have a clue on a lot of things, I usually just say I don’t have a clue instead of making **** up), I'm not saying there aren’t any good or informative topics on here (skimming through a lot of the FI forum proves that), but just in general I feel this would be beneficial.

My other challenge is to understand WHY you are doing a certain modification. One thing that really bewilders me is suspension modification. Why do you spend money on body braces and sway bars and fender braces... how is that cost justified? If you are doing it for the look or the show of the part then fine I can’t have any disagreement with that. But IMO people need to start asking "what am I trying to accomplish with my setup" before they start part shopping. Save yourself the time and money by formulating a plan before attacking.

Ok, my rants over, thanks for reading.

I beg the differ my good sir. He did indeed state that he "think it beneficial" for some members to stop posting until further educated in automotive techniques. But the way I see it, this is a FORUM ("For the discussion of interest of the public") by defintion i think it would be fair to let people say what they want as long as it be related to the topic stated. If it bothers you that many people here are UNDEReducated in the automotive field then i guess you can say to yourself "Im definately better than that guy/girl". But i see no reason what so ever, that a person who is a member of this forum to not be able to express what they THINK would be correct. If they are wrong, who cares? Yeah maybe some people who are WELL educated can correct them, but this forum is for learnging purposes. If everyone knew what they were doing why would we have a forum in the first place? This is just my opinion on the whole "Dont post untill further educated in automotive field" I think that is invasion of public freedom in this forum. Who are you to say that people shouldnt post untill YOU think they are educated enough in auto mechanics, to have a conversation? But like i said this is just my opinion, But im sure it will cause some sort of controversy. Apologies to the 6gc forum.

Mario