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post Sep 20, 2006 - 6:10 PM
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Alright, well i have a few questions on what is or isn't illegal, and was kinda hoping someone would know or have any information on the subject. I live in LA, and i was just kind of wondering what mods are actually illegal.

Engine mods. I heard many different things like, ANY engine mod is illegal including a short ram intake. Can anyone add to this?

Are cars required to have mufflers? Cause mine was kind of hacked off and stolen off my car while i was away. Car now stays in my garage until i go back.

Nitrous Oxide. Is it legal to have it hooked up in your car?

RHD conversion, Legal or Illegal?

Dark window tint. what is the legal limit? i've seen some pretty dark tint on all of the windows.

Changing to an aftermarket steering wheel.

Front license plate. Are they required?

And i've always kind of wondered but is underglow completely illegal, or is it just red and blue underglow that is illegal?

Ok any help would be great, im just kind of curious about this stuff, cuase i hear it debated all the time, but i never get a clear answer.


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post Sep 21, 2006 - 10:25 AM
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Okay, I'm soo not moving back to Cali.

Nobody gives a rats @$$ here...the cops will actually see a nice car, pull it over, and ask if they can look undre the hood to ADMIRE any engine work you've done! lmao...

The law says 35% tint or higher required all around, and no vinyl graphics on the top of the windsheild...but you don't get pulled over for it, they "catch you" at the yearly inspection...if you actually get your car inspected rolleyes.gif

No laws against any lights, color changes, neons, windsheild squirters, nothing. I remember that noise law in Cali. That sucked...no worries here, though. smile.gif

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post Sep 22, 2006 - 9:34 AM
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QUOTE(mzztoyota @ Sep 21, 2006 - 10:25 AM) [snapback]482233[/snapback]

Okay, I'm soo not moving back to Cali.

Nobody gives a rats @$$ here...the cops will actually see a nice car, pull it over, and ask if they can look undre the hood to ADMIRE any engine work you've done! lmao...

The law says 35% tint or higher required all around, and no vinyl graphics on the top of the windsheild...but you don't get pulled over for it, they "catch you" at the yearly inspection...if you actually get your car inspected rolleyes.gif

No laws against any lights, color changes, neons, windsheild squirters, nothing. I remember that noise law in Cali. That sucked...no worries here, though. smile.gif

yeah nothing like being proud of poor laws and law enforcement.

people make those laws for a reason, they don't just hate modders.
post Sep 25, 2006 - 8:10 PM
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QUOTE(confucious @ Sep 22, 2006 - 9:34 AM) [snapback]482587[/snapback]


yeah nothing like being proud of poor laws and law enforcement.

people make those laws for a reason, they don't just hate modders.


They make them for a reason: depending on where you live, they are different, because each state has had a different experience with mods and makes laws accordingly. Finicky people who want absolute silence in California result in the "no louder than can be heard 50 feet away" law, confused people seeing red or blue neons cause accidents when slowing down too quickly on the freeway, etc. etc...

We haven't had those problems here. I'm spoiled by being allowed to do almost anyhting I want with my car, so sue me, but please don't tell me that where I live has "poor laws and law enforcement" just because they aren't the same as yours. People who live here have more of a "party attitude" about life, are more laid-back, don't mind modified cars on the road and if anything, enjoy them. Police openly admit that the few car mod laws we have were mostly just copied off of other state's laws to make our force some money. Mods have not caused problems yet, when they do, then I'm sure new laws like yours will come around and be respected, because the small community watches out for eachother and respects everyone's wants.

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post Sep 25, 2006 - 8:32 PM
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QUOTE(mzztoyota @ Sep 25, 2006 - 8:10 PM) [snapback]483759[/snapback]

They make them for a reason: depending on where you live, they are different, because each state has had a different experience with mods and makes laws accordingly. Finicky people who want absolute silence in California result in the "no louder than can be heard 50 feet away" law, confused people seeing red or blue neons cause accidents when slowing down too quickly on the freeway, etc. etc...

We haven't had those problems here. I'm spoiled by being allowed to do almost anyhting I want with my car, so sue me, but please don't tell me that where I live has "poor laws and law enforcement" just because they aren't the same as yours. People who live here have more of a "party attitude" about life, are more laid-back, don't mind modified cars on the road and if anything, enjoy them. Police openly admit that the few car mod laws we have were mostly just copied off of other state's laws to make our force some money. Mods have not caused problems yet, when they do, then I'm sure new laws like yours will come around and be respected, because the small community watches out for eachother and respects everyone's wants.

I suppose you can remove seatbelts and safety equipment huh? Or lower your car 1" from the ground so you can kill someone else when you hit debris. Or so your strobe lights can trigger someones epilepsy and they have a seizure, swerve and kill someone. Or someone is too busy looking at the pretty neon on the car, swerves off the road and kills a four year old playing in a park. Also, nothing like having a LOUD exhaust wake you up at 4am. I suppose you are all passed out drunk from your "party attitude" so you don't hear it. Severe modding is stupid for on-road, daily driver use.

Posts in this topic
- MaskedMan   legal/illegal questions...   Sep 20, 2006 - 6:10 PM
- - hurley97   Cali is always different but I'll give it a tr...   Sep 20, 2006 - 6:26 PM
- - MaskedMan   alright thanks for the input steff , i hope im no...   Sep 20, 2006 - 6:39 PM
|- - hurley97   QUOTE(MaskedMan @ Sep 20, 2006 - 7:3...   Sep 20, 2006 - 6:47 PM
- - IdiotStick   I had a bunch of people in my celica too. 1 in th...   Sep 20, 2006 - 7:02 PM
- - neKronos   Engine mods, cali is strict on them I remember see...   Sep 21, 2006 - 8:19 AM
- - confucious   IN WISCOSIN Engine mods. I heard many different ...   Sep 21, 2006 - 9:48 AM
- - Batman722   http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=2832...   Sep 21, 2006 - 9:48 AM
- - hurley97   damn. time for you cali guys to move to NH where t...   Sep 21, 2006 - 9:57 AM
- - mzztoyota   Okay, I'm soo not moving back to Cali. Nobody...   Sep 21, 2006 - 10:25 AM
|- - confucious   QUOTE(mzztoyota @ Sep 21, 2006 - 10...   Sep 22, 2006 - 9:34 AM
|- - mzztoyota   QUOTE(confucious @ Sep 22, 2006 - 9...   Sep 25, 2006 - 8:10 PM
|- - confucious   QUOTE(mzztoyota @ Sep 25, 2006 - 8:1...   Sep 25, 2006 - 8:32 PM
|- - mzztoyota   QUOTE(confucious @ Sep 25, 2006 - 8...   Sep 25, 2006 - 10:13 PM
- - Sh0gunkid8721   so are aftermarket mods for Scions like supercharg...   Sep 22, 2006 - 3:06 PM
- - tomazws   I think they're still considered factory stuff...   Sep 22, 2006 - 3:15 PM
- - j0e_p3t   yup, cali sucks. i blame it on the fast and furiou...   Sep 25, 2006 - 8:21 PM
- - Bitter   anyone else notice the 7afe pic in there?   Sep 25, 2006 - 8:38 PM
|- - MaskedMan   QUOTE(Bitter @ Sep 25, 2006 - 6:38 P...   Sep 25, 2006 - 9:27 PM
- - jess_i_74   I bet Cali loves the 7a. They would install it in ...   Sep 25, 2006 - 9:48 PM
- - creamed_corn   QUOTE(MaskedMan @ Sep 20, 2006 - 6:1...   Sep 26, 2006 - 8:09 PM
|- - confucious   QUOTE(creamed_corn @ Sep 26, 2006 - 8...   Sep 27, 2006 - 10:43 AM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(creamed_corn @ Sep 26, 2006 - 7...   Sep 27, 2006 - 12:03 PM
- - easternpiro1   what if youre illegal in california? but okay in y...   Sep 26, 2006 - 10:30 PM
- - Bitter   your car is legal as long as its legal where ever ...   Sep 26, 2006 - 10:51 PM


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