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post Sep 25, 2006 - 1:35 PM
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Personally I have become increasingly agitated at the amount of people posting incorrect information and unbackable claims... its one thing to post to discuss it, but when you are posting "as fact" you need to make sure your facts are correct. In my honest to god opinion it would be beneficial for a good portion of the forum's members to stop posting for a while and go read a few automotive and/or engineering books or hell... even for the laziest of people, go over to howstuffworks.com or wikipedia.com and just start searching automotive related topics that you "THINK" you know about, they dumb it down so much anyone can understand it, but its technical enough to give you a much better understanding.... I challenge all of you to do it and come back with certifiable evidence to have intelligent conversations with each other, and hopefully make me feel like an idiot at some point and prove me wrong. I am not saying I know everything (hell, I don’t have a clue on a lot of things, I usually just say I don’t have a clue instead of making **** up), I'm not saying there aren’t any good or informative topics on here (skimming through a lot of the FI forum proves that), but just in general I feel this would be beneficial.

My other challenge is to understand WHY you are doing a certain modification. One thing that really bewilders me is suspension modification. Why do you spend money on body braces and sway bars and fender braces... how is that cost justified? If you are doing it for the look or the show of the part then fine I can’t have any disagreement with that. But IMO people need to start asking "what am I trying to accomplish with my setup" before they start part shopping. Save yourself the time and money by formulating a plan before attacking.

Ok, my rants over, thanks for reading.


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post Sep 25, 2006 - 11:51 PM
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QUOTE(BLADDER_MASTER @ Sep 25, 2006 - 11:10 PM) [snapback]483850[/snapback]

If people here aren't willing to search for the answers to their Celica-related question, what makes you think they're going to search through books to help themselves be more educated. I'm sorry but this forum aggravates me often because the amount of mis-information being spread about things. You have people replying to topics with info that someone else said. Problem is, how does that person know that info is correct or not. Most of the time they don't bother to look for themselves to see if that is a fact or opinion. Like for instance, the most common reply to a "What engine should I swap?" topic is "3S-GTE". The people that ask that question shouldn't make a topic to see what engine he/she should swap. He/she should do his own research to see which engine will satisfy his own needs. He/she shouldn't get an engine that everybody else is telling them to get, because more than like the people that reply to him/her are basing their opinion on what everyone else has told them to get.

Research, it is an action that a lot of people here do not seem to do.



I have to agree with MOST of what you said. The only thing i have to disagree with is what you said about the 3sgte swap as your example. Your saying that people SHOULDNT ask what engine he/she should look into putting into their celica, but tell me what engines came stock in the US model GT and ST, its not the 3sgte. So asking questions in my opinion on the topic is quite ok. THAT IS AFTER they have read the stickys which will inform then on OTHER swaps done by other members meaning other members OPINIONS and EXPERIENCES on how their swapped was performed and completed. You would peobably be suprised at the amount of research people put in, but i will agree some people just want it handed to them on a platter. But if you really think about it, the 3sgte swaps in the stickys are as close to the facts as we have and almost everyday i see something new about how you can better the swaps and how they get easier and easier.
That is just my opinion, i think everyone in this forum has the free will to say what they wish and if they say something irrational then someone will correct them, its as simple as that. Like i said earlier if everyone knew everything about the celica there would be absolutely no point for the forums. I hope this causes no controversy it is just my opinion on the topic and if you dont like it pay no attention to it.

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Posts in this topic
- boosted_K2   A Challenge to the community   Sep 25, 2006 - 1:35 PM
- - celicast3sgte   i agree 100%   Sep 25, 2006 - 4:54 PM
- - trdproven   From a neutral standpoint, I agree, there is a bun...   Sep 25, 2006 - 4:59 PM
- - celicast3sgte   well its not like he is trying to say anyone here ...   Sep 25, 2006 - 5:15 PM
- - BlackCelicaGT94   Halleluiah   Sep 25, 2006 - 5:25 PM
- - trdproven   Not to make a big thing out of this but people her...   Sep 25, 2006 - 6:18 PM
- - uberschall   i concur in spades, but now i don't want to sa...   Sep 25, 2006 - 7:00 PM
- - confucious   QUOTE(boosted_K2 @ Sep 25, 2006 - 1...   Sep 25, 2006 - 7:17 PM
- - CelicaGT04   QUOTE(celicast3sgte @ Sep 25, 2006 - 5...   Sep 25, 2006 - 7:46 PM
- - vozizm   I am new to this board but not new to forums as i ...   Sep 25, 2006 - 7:57 PM
- - Chanh55   ^ I agree with you CelicaGT04, you bring up a grea...   Sep 25, 2006 - 8:01 PM
- - purplegt4   QUOTE(boosted_K2 @ Sep 25, 2006 - 2...   Sep 25, 2006 - 8:07 PM
|- - laff09   QUOTE(purplegt4 @ Sep 25, 2006 - 8:0...   Sep 25, 2006 - 10:11 PM
- - trdproven   Isn't what GT04 what I said or no?   Sep 25, 2006 - 10:31 PM
- - boosted_K2   I was originally worried about posting this as I t...   Sep 25, 2006 - 10:35 PM
- - celica47   hey bro i would like to say i really like how you ...   Sep 25, 2006 - 10:50 PM
- - purplegt4   yea i know what you m ean. i've never knew how...   Sep 25, 2006 - 10:55 PM
- - boosted_K2   ya, i know what you are saying. i would like to ke...   Sep 25, 2006 - 10:56 PM
- - BLADDER_MASTER   If people here aren't willing to search for th...   Sep 25, 2006 - 11:10 PM
- - boosted_K2   the point is to challenge the community to change,...   Sep 25, 2006 - 11:16 PM
|- - BLADDER_MASTER   QUOTE(boosted_K2 @ Sep 25, 2006 - 11...   Sep 25, 2006 - 11:24 PM
- - boosted_K2   the point is to challenge the community to change,...   Sep 25, 2006 - 11:31 PM
|- - BLADDER_MASTER   QUOTE(boosted_K2 @ Sep 25, 2006 - 11...   Sep 25, 2006 - 11:33 PM
- - boosted_K2   if you want to debate it more we can use PM or IM,...   Sep 25, 2006 - 11:38 PM
|- - BLADDER_MASTER   QUOTE(boosted_K2 @ Sep 25, 2006 - 11...   Sep 26, 2006 - 12:03 AM
- - Kwanza26   I agree... too often people want and follow others...   Sep 25, 2006 - 11:47 PM
- - CelicaGT04   QUOTE(BLADDER_MASTER @ Sep 25, 2006 - 11...   Sep 25, 2006 - 11:51 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(CelicaGT04 @ Sep 26, 2006 - 4...   Sep 26, 2006 - 12:00 AM
- - boosted_K2   ok cool, i must have misunderstood what exactly yo...   Sep 26, 2006 - 12:10 AM
- - airfron   instead of making a new post to find information o...   Sep 26, 2006 - 12:28 AM
- - malpaso   Here is my point of view: 1. "I am not sayin...   Sep 26, 2006 - 1:56 AM
- - boosted_K2   responding to malpaso's #3 what i'm getti...   Sep 26, 2006 - 7:24 AM


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