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Oct 4, 2006 - 1:21 PM
saleeka View Member Profile Enthusiast Joined Sep 4, '03 From Twin Cities MN Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%)	My 2 cents First off, as much as people may find this an unappealing image in terms of age involved, you have to keep in mind that what we have here is a MUTUAL situation. I don't see anything predatory in terms of Foley's "pursual" going on here. The page is activly engaing in the conversation, so I don't really see much concern... The page knew EXACTLY what was going on... Second, in terms of all of the information made public, there is no solicitation of sex whatsoever. Therefore, in a criminal sense, ther really isn't even a case to pursue here. Don't get me wrong, I find what Foley did highly irresponsible for an adult to make such a lapse in judgement as to get involved in a situation such as this, but really, what did he do wrong? The kid is even at age of concent, so you cant even get him on decency laws... I'm not condoning what he did, but I also think that the Republican party is going to try and make a martyr out of him just because most people find what he did disgusting... In terms of this kid now supposedly becoming a risk to young people when he becomes older is, frankly, ridiculous... That idea is such a perpetuation of multiple stereotypes I really don't know where to start... On a final note, I really have to question how big a deal this would be if the 17 year old was a woman? Honestly, it's inappropriateness rings the exact same, but would there be as much backlash? Like I said above, I think there are a lot of Republicans furious that yet another scandal is in their camp, and that this one could cost them results this November... Someone is looking for blood, and it really is unfortunate for Foley that being gay is political when it comes to Republicans... -------------------- Car #3: 98 Accord LX- purchased 5/06, totaled 8/06 Car #2: 95 Celica GT- purchased 8/03, current daily driver Car #1: 01 Focus ZX3- purchased 5/01, sold 8/03

Oct 4, 2006 - 1:42 PM
jgreening View Member Profile Enthusiast Joined Jan 17, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)	QUOTE(saleeka @ Oct 4, 2006 - 1:21 PM) [snapback]487498[/snapback] My 2 cents First off, as much as people may find this an unappealing image in terms of age involved, you have to keep in mind that what we have here is a MUTUAL situation. I don't see anything predatory in terms of Foley's "pursual" going on here. The page is activly engaing in the conversation, so I don't really see much concern... The page knew EXACTLY what was going on... Second, in terms of all of the information made public, there is no solicitation of sex whatsoever. Therefore, in a criminal sense, ther really isn't even a case to pursue here. Don't get me wrong, I find what Foley did highly irresponsible for an adult to make such a lapse in judgement as to get involved in a situation such as this, but really, what did he do wrong? The kid is even at age of concent, so you cant even get him on decency laws... I'm not condoning what he did, but I also think that the Republican party is going to try and make a martyr out of him just because most people find what he did disgusting... In terms of this kid now supposedly becoming a risk to young people when he becomes older is, frankly, ridiculous... That idea is such a perpetuation of multiple stereotypes I really don't know where to start... On a final note, I really have to question how big a deal this would be if the 17 year old was a woman? Honestly, it's inappropriateness rings the exact same, but would there be as much backlash? Like I said above, I think there are a lot of Republicans furious that yet another scandal is in their camp, and that this one could cost them results this November... Someone is looking for blood, and it really is unfortunate for Foley that being gay is political when it comes to Republicans... I would still call him a scum bag if it were a 17 year old girl. I have no sympathy for people who abuse their positions of power to prey on people. Maybe the kids is not a "victim" in the classic sense but calling this exchange between a U.S. congressman and a high school junion working for him "mutual" is even more misleading. The other thing is that Foley has claimed to be an alcoholic, a victim of abuse, and tried to minimize the behavior by pointing out that there was no physical aspect. Why can't people that screw up just say "I screwed up and I am sorry. I will not make excuses because there is no excuse for my poor judgement." That would at least pave the way for him to attempting to build an honorable life. Instead, its excuse, excuse, excuse. Oh, and as far as politics go, don't forget the opportunistic Democrats who are trying to spin this as "a problem with Republicans". Maybe if Foley were a dairy farmer, the farmers who grow corn would say "look at what those dairy farmers are doing now." Can't we just agree that it was the individual and not the group that this should reflect bad upon? -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.

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Mynzeyes NEWS: Mark Foley.. Oct 3, 2006 - 10:09 AM

My2Celi The Edge did a reenactment on that it was so funny... Oct 3, 2006 - 12:45 PM

hitcachi ya, so as soon as i heard about it, I was NOT goin... Oct 4, 2006 - 1:01 AM

sinner96ST republican.. go figure. Oct 4, 2006 - 1:56 AM

6th_celi_vert Thats disturbing, the kid seemed just as into it a... Oct 4, 2006 - 6:58 AM

mzztoyota creepy....~shudder~ Oct 4, 2006 - 7:47 AM

devilsden97 i made it like half way down, and had to stop in f... Oct 4, 2006 - 7:53 AM

mzztoyota QUOTE(devilsden97 @ Oct 4, 2006 - 7... Oct 4, 2006 - 10:31 AM

6th_celi_vert yeah, the government should definately keep a clos... Oct 4, 2006 - 7:56 AM

devilsden97 ^x2 Oct 4, 2006 - 7:57 AM

BlackCelicaGT94 QUOTE(6th_celi_vert @ Oct 4, 2006 - 5... Oct 4, 2006 - 10:35 AM

mzztoyota but when he himself becomes older, and spent his y... Oct 4, 2006 - 10:41 AM

BlackCelicaGT94 So then should we worry about the 12/13/14/15/16 y... Oct 4, 2006 - 11:02 AM

mzztoyota I totally see your point, and to an extent agree w... Oct 4, 2006 - 11:20 AM

BlackCelicaGT94 ^^ Can i just say thank u for the approach ur taki... Oct 4, 2006 - 11:24 AM

ILuvMyCelica95 QUOTE(BlackCelicaGT94 @ Oct 4, 2006 - 12... Oct 4, 2006 - 11:32 AM

Supersprynt Thanks John. Oct 4, 2006 - 11:48 AM

mzztoyota QUOTE^^ Can i just say thank u for the approach ur... Oct 4, 2006 - 12:48 PM

saleeka My 2 cents First off, as much as people may find ... Oct 4, 2006 - 1:21 PM

jgreening QUOTE(saleeka @ Oct 4, 2006 - 1:21 P... Oct 4, 2006 - 1:42 PM

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mzztoyota true, this definitely wouldn't have been ... Oct 4, 2006 - 1:35 PM

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