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post Oct 8, 2006 - 5:50 PM
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This is spark plug 4


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post Oct 9, 2006 - 9:59 PM
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Those plugs do look very good, John.

I remember a magazine I read a while back had a great article on reading plugs, setting gap, and what temp plugs to use for what sort of applications. Pretty good article.


I know its not a FI motor, but after changing spark plugs on my 5SFE you could see the white on the old ones indicating either a hot/lean motor condition. I put fresh new plugs in, and the condition looks identical.
I'm quite confident that this is due to me driving 60+ miles on the highway every day last year at about 80 MPH....at those engine speeds (~4,000 RPMS) and not delivering much fuel due to a low throttle position, my best instincts told me that this causes a plug to appear relatively lean even though I'm sure the factory tune is A-OK on the motor.

Unless the injectors or fuel filter are pretty clogged or theres a vacuum leak that causes a lean off-throttle condition to the fuel system, I would think that my plugs aren't a great indicator of my engine condition, no?

Jeff, maybe your vacuum leak could be causing the "lean plug" appearance both at idle and at while cruising on the highway at high RPMS where fuel consumption depends more on the vacuum present at the fuel rail??


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Posts in this topic
- defgeph   Spark plug #4   Oct 8, 2006 - 5:50 PM
- - ThAixGuYx2k7   thats an awesome pic. nice job man!   Oct 8, 2006 - 6:02 PM
- - LewFX   a lil extra carbon on the tip?   Oct 8, 2006 - 6:50 PM
- - Bitter   i see a little detonation there (small white speck...   Oct 8, 2006 - 7:00 PM
- - jgreening   I swear that "reading the spark plug" is...   Oct 8, 2006 - 7:07 PM
|- - Bitter   QUOTE(jgreening @ Oct 8, 2006 - 7:07...   Oct 8, 2006 - 8:24 PM
- - celicast3sgte   ....i know that isnt sitting ON your CAR right???   Oct 8, 2006 - 7:13 PM
- - lagos   thanks jeff! congrads, you have sings of det...   Oct 8, 2006 - 7:47 PM
- - defgeph   This pic was taken after I started the car and let...   Oct 8, 2006 - 8:01 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(defgeph @ Oct 8, 2006 - 9:01 P...   Oct 8, 2006 - 8:10 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(defgeph @ Oct 8, 2006 - 9:01 P...   Oct 8, 2006 - 8:09 PM
- - defgeph   I'm going to give them a shot over the winter....   Oct 8, 2006 - 8:17 PM
- - presure2   did you reset your ecu after filling back up with ...   Oct 8, 2006 - 8:22 PM
|- - defgeph   QUOTE(presure2 @ Oct 8, 2006 - 9:22 ...   Oct 8, 2006 - 8:23 PM
- - Bitter   also, you should only read a new plug after you...   Oct 8, 2006 - 8:28 PM
- - defgeph   I highly doubt that I'm running lean. On my dy...   Oct 8, 2006 - 8:38 PM
- - Bitter   i stand by what i say, that plug says hot which us...   Oct 8, 2006 - 9:00 PM
- - lagos   jeff, when u take them all out. can you take a pic...   Oct 8, 2006 - 9:45 PM
|- - defgeph   QUOTE(lagos @ Oct 8, 2006 - 10:45 PM...   Oct 8, 2006 - 11:12 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   jeff plugs dont lie thats not the best plug ive se...   Oct 8, 2006 - 10:05 PM
- - lagos   ive been dealing with some odd lean issues on my c...   Oct 8, 2006 - 11:31 PM
- - Bitter   lagos, other than being lean and doing a bit of co...   Oct 9, 2006 - 12:09 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   just pulled them when i got out of work. i also ha...   Oct 9, 2006 - 5:03 PM
- - lagos   those look really good.   Oct 9, 2006 - 5:44 PM
- - hurley97   Nice pink blanket you got there Art   Oct 9, 2006 - 8:40 PM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   Those plugs do look very good, John. I remember a...   Oct 9, 2006 - 9:59 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(hurley97 @ Oct 9, 2006 - 9:40 ...   Oct 9, 2006 - 10:08 PM
- - Bitter   it turns blue if it gets acid on it   Oct 9, 2006 - 10:26 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(Silver94CelicaOwner @ Oct 9, 2006 ...   Oct 9, 2006 - 10:30 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   i guess "reading" plugs is just old tech...   Oct 9, 2006 - 10:36 PM
- - Bitter   wideband is useful, but theres alot to be gleened ...   Oct 9, 2006 - 10:55 PM
- - defgeph   My fuel rail o ring was torn on # 4. This might be...   Oct 9, 2006 - 11:32 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   what brand gas do you use? maybe thats just how it...   Oct 10, 2006 - 11:28 AM
|- - defgeph   QUOTE(x_itchy_b_x @ Oct 10, 2006 - 12...   Oct 10, 2006 - 11:40 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   hmm. i mean plugs normally dont lie, but in your c...   Oct 10, 2006 - 11:51 AM
- - Bitter   a bad oring could have been leaking air and leanin...   Oct 10, 2006 - 12:11 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   QUOTE(Bitter @ Oct 10, 2006 - 1:11 P...   Oct 10, 2006 - 12:19 PM
- - Bitter   what about when you're off boost and timing is...   Oct 10, 2006 - 12:35 PM
- - lagos   his plug looks just like mine used to. the ground...   Oct 10, 2006 - 12:45 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   but then my plugs should look the same since they ...   Oct 10, 2006 - 1:28 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(x_itchy_b_x @ Oct 10, 2006 - 2...   Oct 10, 2006 - 5:14 PM
- - 95celgt   hey lagos, whats the normal operating voltage that...   Oct 10, 2006 - 10:06 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(95celgt @ Oct 10, 2006 - 11:06...   Oct 10, 2006 - 10:55 PM
- - 95celgt   alright, thanks, just wanted to make sure:P.   Oct 10, 2006 - 10:57 PM


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