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post Oct 31, 2006 - 7:50 AM
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This is probably going to be for the forced induction guys more than anyone, but here's my issue:

I CANNOT hit a hard shift into 2nd at WOT in the car. Simply put, the tranny refuses to go into 2nd gear, and third gear offers quite a bit of resistance at high throttle inputs also. When driving easily however, it shifts fine into any gear I want it to.

Call me crazy but I've always had trouble shifting cable actuated manual transmission under heavy loads. What I think is happening is that my old/weak motor mounts are allowing enough movement in the motor that enough of a shift happens to throw off the sync of the cables to the shifter. What I'm trying to do is get some verification on this.

Thoughts? I must have tried 4-5 times last night on the way home from work to bang a high RPM WOT 1-2 shift and it wouldn't happen.


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post Oct 31, 2006 - 2:59 PM
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Just using the stock 5S-FE 5 speed tranny (don't know the name of it) but....let me retiterate: Under normal driving conditions there are absolutely no noted issues. Smooth shifting, no resistance, nada. No signs of trouble at all. Only under HEAVY throttle inputs do I get the resistance. And ONLY under the throttle (I.E. heavy loads). If I wind it up and take my foot off the gas, it'll go into gear without much fuss. If I stay on the gas and keep the engine torqued though, it'll have an issue with me. If I slow down the shift too, it'll go. It's only when it's under a heavy load at high RPM and when I try to hit a quickshift or powershift.

Essentially what I'm trying to find out is IF it's possible for saggy and old mounts to allow enough transaxle movement to cause the shift cables to have slack or what not that wouldn't allow gear selection. I honestly don't think it's an internal issue on the tranny because of how it drives at anything but the heavy loads.

Thanks for the words everyone. I'll keep you all posted. I'm probably going to pick up a set of those poly motor mount inserts (my stockers were a bit thrashed when the swap happened) and see if those don't improve anything.

This post has been edited by Fastbird: Oct 31, 2006 - 3:00 PM


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- Fastbird   Anyone Experience this??   Oct 31, 2006 - 7:50 AM
- - playr158   penzoil syncromesh + new syncros   Oct 31, 2006 - 9:35 AM
|- - brthrurik   QUOTE(playr158 @ Oct 31, 2006 - 7:35...   Oct 31, 2006 - 10:41 AM
- - Coomer   I had the same issue as well before my car clutch/...   Oct 31, 2006 - 12:56 PM
- - Fastbird   Just using the stock 5S-FE 5 speed tranny (don...   Oct 31, 2006 - 2:59 PM
- - Bitter   you're having a hard time shifting without usi...   Oct 31, 2006 - 4:00 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   Sean, due to the design of the shifter cables and ...   Oct 31, 2006 - 4:15 PM
- - Rjb23   I have the same problem but I have the e153. 1st t...   Oct 31, 2006 - 4:40 PM
- - jgreening   I had difficulty shifting issues and tried a numbe...   Oct 31, 2006 - 4:50 PM
- - Fastbird   Ok, I'm starting to think this is more normal ...   Oct 31, 2006 - 5:40 PM
- - Fastbird   Figured it out. In my Corvette and Trans Am's...   Nov 2, 2006 - 9:33 PM
|- - Yellow94GT   QUOTEAtco......here I come. November 18th provide...   Nov 4, 2006 - 7:00 AM
|- - Coomer   QUOTE(Fastbird @ Nov 2, 2006 - 6:33 ...   Nov 4, 2006 - 12:16 PM
|- - Fastbird   QUOTE(Coomer @ Nov 4, 2006 - 12:16 P...   Nov 4, 2006 - 7:02 PM
- - bufferdan   Change the gear oil and put pennzoil synchromesh f...   Nov 3, 2006 - 8:48 AM
- - maikl   change oil and check clutch   Nov 4, 2006 - 5:32 AM
- - spunky393   To coomers input and fastbird, our clutch throw ad...   Nov 4, 2006 - 7:50 PM
|- - laff09   QUOTE(spunky393 @ Nov 4, 2006 - 7:50...   Nov 4, 2006 - 7:57 PM
- - easternpiro1   damn! back from the dead! im having THE...   Jul 16, 2009 - 6:55 PM
- - DEATH   Eastern - PM me I have a couple of questions about...   Jul 16, 2009 - 8:52 PM
- - Fastbird   My issue was that I wasn't getting the clutch ...   Jul 16, 2009 - 10:46 PM
|- - easternpiro1   QUOTE (Fastbird @ Jul 16, 2009 - 11...   Jul 16, 2009 - 10:51 PM
|- - Fastbird   QUOTE (easternpiro1 @ Jul 16, 2009 - 10...   Jul 17, 2009 - 9:48 AM
|- - easternpiro1   QUOTE (Fastbird @ Jul 17, 2009 - 9:4...   Jul 17, 2009 - 1:23 PM
- - 808celica   Hmmm mushy?? like the shifter isnt entering the sh...   Jul 17, 2009 - 1:41 PM
- - DEATH   Guys both of you sound like you have a stretched s...   Jul 17, 2009 - 3:13 PM
- - easternpiro1   I havent changed anything, they are the cables tha...   Jul 17, 2009 - 8:11 PM
- - 808celica   no no. the feeling that the trans actually locks i...   Jul 17, 2009 - 8:20 PM
- - 808celica   from inside the car looking at the shifter the lef...   Jul 17, 2009 - 8:23 PM
- - 808celica   try this too: -grab a 2nd person -have a 2nd thats...   Jul 17, 2009 - 8:30 PM
- - easternpiro1   imma try that sunday! doc told me to do the sa...   Jul 18, 2009 - 2:57 AM
|- - 808celica   QUOTE (easternpiro1 @ Jul 17, 2009 - 9...   Jul 18, 2009 - 5:52 AM
- - pittfirefighter   hey maybe this will help you out... i have an e153...   Jul 18, 2009 - 3:22 AM
- - easternpiro1   hiya guys, me and a friend tried some of the stuff...   Jul 19, 2009 - 11:36 PM
- - 808celica   Another thing could be is if our shifter needs to ...   Jul 20, 2009 - 2:28 PM
|- - netrata   QUOTE (808celica @ Jul 20, 2009 - 9...   Jul 20, 2009 - 2:58 PM
|- - 808celica   QUOTE (netrata @ Jul 20, 2009 - 9:58...   Jul 20, 2009 - 3:16 PM
- - easternpiro1   i went in there and messed around some more. i was...   Jul 21, 2009 - 6:28 PM
- - 808celica   i know what you mean. yeah mines is unsheathed abo...   Jul 21, 2009 - 6:50 PM
|- - easternpiro1   QUOTE (808celica @ Jul 21, 2009 - 7...   Jul 21, 2009 - 7:13 PM
|- - pittfirefighter   QUOTE (easternpiro1 @ Jul 21, 2009 - 7...   Jul 22, 2009 - 12:57 AM
||- - easternpiro1   QUOTE (pittfirefighter @ Jul 22, 2009 - ...   Jul 22, 2009 - 9:10 AM
||- - DEATH   QUOTE (pittfirefighter @ Jul 22, 2009 - ...   Jul 22, 2009 - 10:00 AM
|- - 808celica   QUOTE (easternpiro1 @ Jul 21, 2009 - 2...   Jul 22, 2009 - 12:59 PM
|- - easternpiro1   QUOTE (808celica @ Jul 22, 2009 - 12...   Jul 22, 2009 - 8:10 PM
- - 808celica   Cables changed!! and now my shifter is hel...   Jul 23, 2009 - 5:23 PM
- - easternpiro1   damn... those look FAMILIAR... hmmmm. cables orde...   Jul 27, 2009 - 4:13 PM
|- - 808celica   QUOTE (easternpiro1 @ Jul 27, 2009 - 11...   Jul 27, 2009 - 6:34 PM
- - bdog_v   hey guys glad i came across your thread. My 94 ce...   Aug 4, 2009 - 10:49 PM
- - 808celica   from what i heard if it pops out its usually somet...   Aug 5, 2009 - 3:45 AM
- - easternpiro1   x2 but first look at your cables and inspect them....   Aug 8, 2009 - 3:21 AM


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