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post Oct 31, 2006 - 7:50 AM
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This is probably going to be for the forced induction guys more than anyone, but here's my issue:

I CANNOT hit a hard shift into 2nd at WOT in the car. Simply put, the tranny refuses to go into 2nd gear, and third gear offers quite a bit of resistance at high throttle inputs also. When driving easily however, it shifts fine into any gear I want it to.

Call me crazy but I've always had trouble shifting cable actuated manual transmission under heavy loads. What I think is happening is that my old/weak motor mounts are allowing enough movement in the motor that enough of a shift happens to throw off the sync of the cables to the shifter. What I'm trying to do is get some verification on this.

Thoughts? I must have tried 4-5 times last night on the way home from work to bang a high RPM WOT 1-2 shift and it wouldn't happen.


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post Nov 2, 2006 - 9:33 PM
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Figured it out. In my Corvette and Trans Am's, I'm used to just "kicking" the clutch pedal. I have the engagement points set very high on those and can bang a powershift with at little as 1/3 pedal movement in each.

The celica however, needs to be put all the way down (due to the limited amount of pedal travel in the first place). Let's just say I was screeching the tires on the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts on the way home tonight whilst making buttery smooth shifts.

Atco......here I come. November 18th provided weather is agreeable. Will be on vid too.


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post Nov 4, 2006 - 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(Fastbird @ Nov 2, 2006 - 6:33 PM) [snapback]498919[/snapback]

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Figured it out. In my Corvette and Trans Am's, I'm used to just "kicking" the clutch pedal. I have the engagement points set very high on those and can bang a powershift with at little as 1/3 pedal movement in each.

The celica however, needs to be put all the way down (due to the limited amount of pedal travel in the first place). Let's just say I was screeching the tires on the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts on the way home tonight whilst making buttery smooth shifts.

Atco......here I come. November 18th provided weather is agreeable. Will be on vid too.


You can adjust where the clutch engages on our cars if you desire. At the top of the clutch pedal there's a threaded rod that's part of the master cylinder and is locked in place with a 12mm nut. Loosen that nut and then you can spin the rod to adjust how high or low your clutch engages.


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Posts in this topic
- Fastbird   Anyone Experience this??   Oct 31, 2006 - 7:50 AM
- - playr158   penzoil syncromesh + new syncros   Oct 31, 2006 - 9:35 AM
|- - brthrurik   QUOTE(playr158 @ Oct 31, 2006 - 7:35...   Oct 31, 2006 - 10:41 AM
- - Coomer   I had the same issue as well before my car clutch/...   Oct 31, 2006 - 12:56 PM
- - Fastbird   Just using the stock 5S-FE 5 speed tranny (don...   Oct 31, 2006 - 2:59 PM
- - Bitter   you're having a hard time shifting without usi...   Oct 31, 2006 - 4:00 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   Sean, due to the design of the shifter cables and ...   Oct 31, 2006 - 4:15 PM
- - Rjb23   I have the same problem but I have the e153. 1st t...   Oct 31, 2006 - 4:40 PM
- - jgreening   I had difficulty shifting issues and tried a numbe...   Oct 31, 2006 - 4:50 PM
- - Fastbird   Ok, I'm starting to think this is more normal ...   Oct 31, 2006 - 5:40 PM
- - Fastbird   Figured it out. In my Corvette and Trans Am's...   Nov 2, 2006 - 9:33 PM
|- - Yellow94GT   QUOTEAtco......here I come. November 18th provide...   Nov 4, 2006 - 7:00 AM
|- - Coomer   QUOTE(Fastbird @ Nov 2, 2006 - 6:33 ...   Nov 4, 2006 - 12:16 PM
|- - Fastbird   QUOTE(Coomer @ Nov 4, 2006 - 12:16 P...   Nov 4, 2006 - 7:02 PM
- - bufferdan   Change the gear oil and put pennzoil synchromesh f...   Nov 3, 2006 - 8:48 AM
- - maikl   change oil and check clutch   Nov 4, 2006 - 5:32 AM
- - spunky393   To coomers input and fastbird, our clutch throw ad...   Nov 4, 2006 - 7:50 PM
|- - laff09   QUOTE(spunky393 @ Nov 4, 2006 - 7:50...   Nov 4, 2006 - 7:57 PM
- - easternpiro1   damn! back from the dead! im having THE...   Jul 16, 2009 - 6:55 PM
- - DEATH   Eastern - PM me I have a couple of questions about...   Jul 16, 2009 - 8:52 PM
- - Fastbird   My issue was that I wasn't getting the clutch ...   Jul 16, 2009 - 10:46 PM
|- - easternpiro1   QUOTE (Fastbird @ Jul 16, 2009 - 11...   Jul 16, 2009 - 10:51 PM
|- - Fastbird   QUOTE (easternpiro1 @ Jul 16, 2009 - 10...   Jul 17, 2009 - 9:48 AM
|- - easternpiro1   QUOTE (Fastbird @ Jul 17, 2009 - 9:4...   Jul 17, 2009 - 1:23 PM
- - 808celica   Hmmm mushy?? like the shifter isnt entering the sh...   Jul 17, 2009 - 1:41 PM
- - DEATH   Guys both of you sound like you have a stretched s...   Jul 17, 2009 - 3:13 PM
- - easternpiro1   I havent changed anything, they are the cables tha...   Jul 17, 2009 - 8:11 PM
- - 808celica   no no. the feeling that the trans actually locks i...   Jul 17, 2009 - 8:20 PM
- - 808celica   from inside the car looking at the shifter the lef...   Jul 17, 2009 - 8:23 PM
- - 808celica   try this too: -grab a 2nd person -have a 2nd thats...   Jul 17, 2009 - 8:30 PM
- - easternpiro1   imma try that sunday! doc told me to do the sa...   Jul 18, 2009 - 2:57 AM
|- - 808celica   QUOTE (easternpiro1 @ Jul 17, 2009 - 9...   Jul 18, 2009 - 5:52 AM
- - pittfirefighter   hey maybe this will help you out... i have an e153...   Jul 18, 2009 - 3:22 AM
- - easternpiro1   hiya guys, me and a friend tried some of the stuff...   Jul 19, 2009 - 11:36 PM
- - 808celica   Another thing could be is if our shifter needs to ...   Jul 20, 2009 - 2:28 PM
|- - netrata   QUOTE (808celica @ Jul 20, 2009 - 9...   Jul 20, 2009 - 2:58 PM
|- - 808celica   QUOTE (netrata @ Jul 20, 2009 - 9:58...   Jul 20, 2009 - 3:16 PM
- - easternpiro1   i went in there and messed around some more. i was...   Jul 21, 2009 - 6:28 PM
- - 808celica   i know what you mean. yeah mines is unsheathed abo...   Jul 21, 2009 - 6:50 PM
|- - easternpiro1   QUOTE (808celica @ Jul 21, 2009 - 7...   Jul 21, 2009 - 7:13 PM
|- - pittfirefighter   QUOTE (easternpiro1 @ Jul 21, 2009 - 7...   Jul 22, 2009 - 12:57 AM
||- - easternpiro1   QUOTE (pittfirefighter @ Jul 22, 2009 - ...   Jul 22, 2009 - 9:10 AM
||- - DEATH   QUOTE (pittfirefighter @ Jul 22, 2009 - ...   Jul 22, 2009 - 10:00 AM
|- - 808celica   QUOTE (easternpiro1 @ Jul 21, 2009 - 2...   Jul 22, 2009 - 12:59 PM
|- - easternpiro1   QUOTE (808celica @ Jul 22, 2009 - 12...   Jul 22, 2009 - 8:10 PM
- - 808celica   Cables changed!! and now my shifter is hel...   Jul 23, 2009 - 5:23 PM
- - easternpiro1   damn... those look FAMILIAR... hmmmm. cables orde...   Jul 27, 2009 - 4:13 PM
|- - 808celica   QUOTE (easternpiro1 @ Jul 27, 2009 - 11...   Jul 27, 2009 - 6:34 PM
- - bdog_v   hey guys glad i came across your thread. My 94 ce...   Aug 4, 2009 - 10:49 PM
- - 808celica   from what i heard if it pops out its usually somet...   Aug 5, 2009 - 3:45 AM
- - easternpiro1   x2 but first look at your cables and inspect them....   Aug 8, 2009 - 3:21 AM


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