3SGTE Head on 5SFE Block Options

[PPhouvieng]

Is a 3sgte head on a 5sfe block worth it??
Or will it be better if you just swap the 3sgte in it??
And if it is worth it, any modifications??
Thanks

Pete

[Symbiote5S-FE]

ok..... let me see if i get this straight....its a lot more work doing this than just doing the swap? but its the same thing performance wise and are you wasting less money by doing this process of the 3sgte head on the 5sfe block?

[phattyduck]

ok..... let me see if i get this straight....its a lot more work doing this than just doing the swap? but its the same thing performance wise and are you wasting less money by doing this process of the 3sgte head on the 5sfe block?

The 5s block has proven to be able to handle more power, and it has a taller deck height to allow for larger displacement without increasing bore size as much. The difficulty comes with putting the 3s-gte head on the 5s-fe block...

-Charlie

I was just wondering which would be better, thats all.
A 2.0 liter turbo or a 2.2 liter.
Just trying to get feedback.

Pete

Better is relative - what's your budget and your goals? A 5s-gte hybrid is not cheap or easy, but has a higher potential overall.

-Charlie

[PPhouvieng]

ok..... let me see if i get this straight....its a lot more work doing this than just doing the swap? but its the same thing performance wise and are you wasting less money by doing this process of the 3sgte head on the 5sfe block?

The 5s block has proven to be able to handle more power, and it has a taller deck height to allow for larger displacement without increasing bore size as much. The difficulty comes with putting the 3s-gte head on the 5s-fe block...

-Charlie

I was just wondering which would be better, thats all.
A 2.0 liter turbo or a 2.2 liter.
Just trying to get feedback.

Pete

Better is relative - what's your budget and your goals? A 5s-gte hybrid is not cheap or easy, but has a higher potential overall.

-Charlie

But I thought the 3SGTE head would fit directly on to the 5SFE Block???
I hear all you have to do is drill out the water ports.

Pete

[phattyduck]

But I thought the 3SGTE head would fit directly on to the 5SFE Block???
I hear all you have to do is drill out the water ports.

Pete

Lol... ok then, if you say so. Hahaha....

That's what it takes to get the head attached to the block. Some early Camry blocks can even be mated to a 3s-gte head with no mods to the water ports...

Once that is done - what are you doing for oil cooling? What are you doing for electronics to run the motor? What about tuning? What internals are you going to use? What about oil and water for the turbo? Flywheel/clutch? There are TONS of little things to do that you have no idea about at this point, obviously.

You can also just put the turbo and manifold from a 3s-gte on your celica and use that as a base for a turbo kit for your 5s-fe... maybe that's what you were thinking in your original post?

-Charlie

[PPhouvieng]

But I thought the 3SGTE head would fit directly on to the 5SFE Block???
I hear all you have to do is drill out the water ports.

Pete

Lol... ok then, if you say so. Hahaha....

That's what it takes to get the head attached to the block. Some early Camry blocks can even be mated to a 3s-gte head with no mods to the water ports...

Once that is done - what are you doing for oil cooling? What are you doing for electronics to run the motor? What about tuning? What internals are you going to use? What about oil and water for the turbo? Flywheel/clutch? There are TONS of little things to do that you have no idea about at this point, obviously.

You can also just put the turbo and manifold from a 3s-gte on your celica and use that as a base for a turbo kit for your 5s-fe... maybe that's what you were thinking in your original post?

-Charlie

Haha
yeah........ you're right, didn't think about all that. i was just thinking about the 2.0 vs 2.2. i guess the 3sgte would be a whole hell of alot better.

Pete