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post Nov 5, 2006 - 6:42 PM
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So, I went to the norcal JDM theory meet. I was one of 2 6gcs there, but if anyone goes on any other car forums, particularly evo forums, you'll probably hear about some "dumbass ricer in a celica"

coming off the freeway onramp only a matter of blocks away, I was trying to keep up with the EVO in front of me who was going pretty damn fast. well, somewhere around 60-70 mph on this 35mph offramp my car car lost traction and I started sliding FF drift style. now, all of a sudden the weight transfer throws my car in the total opposite direction, the car jumps over a curb, and according to my friend driving behind me, all four wheels were over a foot of the ground at one point. I flew over the small dirt embankment (a good 3ft drop.) and was now going the wrong way on a one way onramp... lucky for me there were no other cars coming that direction. anyway, I pulled over in a parking lot to examine the damage. honestly, there is some scratches on my front bumper, and the center crossmember is pretty scratched, other than that, no damage. I was EXTREMELY lucky. I was also the laughing stock of the entire show. but I'm alive, and my car is alive. and I think I'm going to start driving more careful now.

the end. go ahead. criticize me, I deserve it.


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post Nov 8, 2006 - 2:05 AM
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QUOTE(6strngs @ Nov 5, 2006 - 6:42 PM) [snapback]499672[/snapback]

So, I went to the norcal JDM theory meet. I was one of 2 6gcs there, but if anyone goes on any other car forums, particularly evo forums, you'll probably hear about some "dumbass ricer in a celica"

coming off the freeway onramp only a matter of blocks away, I was trying to keep up with the EVO in front of me who was going pretty damn fast. well, somewhere around 60-70 mph on this 35mph offramp my car car lost traction and I started sliding FF drift style. now, all of a sudden the weight transfer throws my car in the total opposite direction, the car jumps over a curb, and according to my friend driving behind me, all four wheels were over a foot of the ground at one point. I flew over the small dirt embankment (a good 3ft drop.) and was now going the wrong way on a one way onramp... lucky for me there were no other cars coming that direction. anyway, I pulled over in a parking lot to examine the damage. honestly, there is some scratches on my front bumper, and the center crossmember is pretty scratched, other than that, no damage. I was EXTREMELY lucky. I was also the laughing stock of the entire show. but I'm alive, and my car is alive. and I think I'm going to start driving more careful now.

the end. go ahead. criticize me, I deserve it.


I wouldn't call you a ricer for doing something like that. I ain't no expert, but from what it sounds like, in the middle of your traction-loss, you counter-steered way too much. It lead to your car snapping back at you the other way around when your tires caught grip again. Similar situation happened to me once, but I was in an on-ramp going up in the rain with crappy tires. Luckily I didn't crash. Anywho, the fact that your car is FWD isn't the main issue. It's mostly about your tires. Give any car crappy tires, whether it be FWD, RWD, or AWD. Run the ramp at that speed and you'll be asking for disaster.

Edit: Forgot to mention this, driver experience also plays a major roll. No offense, but if you were a highly experience driver, you wouldn't have taken that turn @ that speed.

Also, I disagree with sinner96ST's statement about "they're always going to handle like ****, because they're FWD cars." A properly built FWD with a good driver can prove you wrong.

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post Nov 8, 2006 - 3:01 AM
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Also, I disagree with sinner96ST's statement about "they're always going to handle like ****, because they're FWD cars." A properly built FWD with a good driver can prove you wrong.


properly built sure, i should have modified my statement to :

stock, mind you, if you pit any FWD car against any rear wheel, or all wheel drive car, you will lose. because of the design, they do not handle as well in extreme conditions as some of their other counterparts.

if you're talking about a built FWD platform, sure, you might be able to hang with the big boys. however, dump the same amount of money in to an awd/rwd car, and then we'll see which handles better at that point, and which can handle power better to the ground, which is a vital part of the handling of any car. you can't dump 300 horses in a FF car and expect great results in the straights or the twisties.

fwd isn't really known for it's prowess in handling. it's an economical design thought up by engineers who wanted to put all their eggs in one basket. you can put all the money in the world in to a FF car, and it still won't transfer weight evenly, won't handle as well, and won't be able to handle as much power as a rwd or awd car.


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QUOTE(sinner96ST @ Nov 8, 2006 - 3:01 AM) [snapback]500534[/snapback]

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Also, I disagree with sinner96ST's statement about "they're always going to handle like ****, because they're FWD cars." A properly built FWD with a good driver can prove you wrong.


properly built sure, i should have modified my statement to :

stock, mind you, if you pit any FWD car against any rear wheel, or all wheel drive car, you will lose. because of the design, they do not handle as well in extreme conditions as some of their other counterparts.


thumbsdown.gif So untrue. How would you explain ITR's and CTR's pwning RWD and AWD cars? I'm talking stock with equal driver experience on both sides. It's like saying a stock 240SX can beat an Integra Type R. laugh.gif Sorry but I just had to laugh.

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- 6strngs   I admit it   Nov 5, 2006 - 6:42 PM
- - pure_dx   6gc GT vs. EVO 8/9 = unless i was pushing over 2...   Nov 5, 2006 - 6:47 PM
- - Griff   tell me you didnt show up to the meet after that? ...   Nov 5, 2006 - 7:00 PM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE(Griff @ Nov 5, 2006 - 4:00 PM)...   Nov 5, 2006 - 7:08 PM
|- - bowtiestang   QUOTE(6strngs @ Nov 5, 2006 - 7:08 P...   Nov 8, 2006 - 6:26 PM
- - Supersprynt   Its fun to pretend. But dont pretend your cars f...   Nov 5, 2006 - 7:06 PM
- - Culpable04   QUOTE(6strngs @ Nov 5, 2006 - 7:08 P...   Nov 5, 2006 - 7:14 PM
- - purplegt4   you're trying to go 60-70 on a 35mph exit with...   Nov 5, 2006 - 7:35 PM
- - airfron   man that sucks.. i would of been way too embarrass...   Nov 5, 2006 - 8:08 PM
- - 3WayStunna   lol, stuff like this happens bro, and yeah, you ne...   Nov 5, 2006 - 8:16 PM
- - sugarfree   Sorry i laughed, just thinkin about a persons reac...   Nov 5, 2006 - 8:39 PM
- - CelicaST202   lol   Nov 5, 2006 - 8:52 PM
- - azian_advanced   yeah.. we all do dumb things.. but what's impo...   Nov 5, 2006 - 9:07 PM
- - Shocker   to bad you didnt have a huge ass ricer wing..you w...   Nov 5, 2006 - 11:33 PM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE(Shocker @ Nov 5, 2006 - 8:33 P...   Nov 6, 2006 - 3:02 AM
- - sinner96ST   your suspension is completely stock, and you have ...   Nov 6, 2006 - 4:09 AM
|- - trd94   QUOTE(sinner96ST @ Nov 6, 2006 - 4:0...   Nov 6, 2006 - 5:20 PM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   If you're at those sort of RPM's in second...   Nov 6, 2006 - 4:10 AM
- - tomazws   I'm glad nothing too bad happened to your car,...   Nov 6, 2006 - 4:15 AM
- - Steevo   It is about getting the "feel" of any ca...   Nov 6, 2006 - 5:55 PM
- - DeathWing   glad to hear ur car had almost no damage and u lea...   Nov 7, 2006 - 10:36 PM
- - BLADDER_MASTER   QUOTE(6strngs @ Nov 5, 2006 - 6:42 P...   Nov 8, 2006 - 2:05 AM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE(BLADDER_MASTER @ Nov 7, 2006 - 11...   Nov 8, 2006 - 2:55 AM
||- - BLADDER_MASTER   QUOTE(6strngs @ Nov 8, 2006 - 2:55 A...   Nov 8, 2006 - 3:16 AM
||- - 6strngs   QUOTE(BLADDER_MASTER @ Nov 8, 2006 - 12...   Nov 8, 2006 - 3:32 AM
||- - BLADDER_MASTER   QUOTE(6strngs @ Nov 8, 2006 - 3:32 A...   Nov 8, 2006 - 3:43 AM
||- - 6strngs   QUOTE(BLADDER_MASTER @ Nov 8, 2006 - 12...   Nov 8, 2006 - 3:46 AM
||- - BLADDER_MASTER   QUOTE(6strngs @ Nov 8, 2006 - 3:46 A...   Nov 8, 2006 - 3:59 AM
||- - 6strngs   QUOTE(BLADDER_MASTER @ Nov 8, 2006 - 12...   Nov 8, 2006 - 4:10 AM
|- - sinner96ST   QUOTE Also, I disagree with sinner96ST's state...   Nov 8, 2006 - 3:01 AM
|- - BLADDER_MASTER   QUOTE(sinner96ST @ Nov 8, 2006 - 3:0...   Nov 8, 2006 - 3:10 AM
- - ra65_22re   yea the samething happened to me in my RWD 84 celi...   Nov 8, 2006 - 2:51 AM
- - sinner96ST   http://www.slate.com/id/2081194 is a decent arti...   Nov 8, 2006 - 3:05 AM
- - eggman40   Glad to hear you and your car are ok man. Not the ...   Nov 8, 2006 - 3:19 AM
- - Kwanza26   hahaha...   Nov 10, 2006 - 12:51 AM
- - OrbitalGT95   QUOTE(6strngs @ Nov 5, 2006 - 11:42 ...   Nov 10, 2006 - 2:46 AM
- - neoklis   Just saw this on Ford and I thought it would be ni...   Nov 13, 2006 - 5:27 AM
- - Griff   man, i do reccommend expending your tires before y...   Nov 14, 2006 - 9:47 PM
- - spolski07   how come you compare a integra type r to a 240? wh...   Nov 14, 2006 - 10:10 PM
|- - BLADDER_MASTER   .   Nov 16, 2006 - 5:45 AM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE(BLADDER_MASTER @ Nov 16, 2006 - 2...   Nov 16, 2006 - 11:36 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   i love this thread.   Nov 15, 2006 - 10:56 AM


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