Awesome Thread., 2ZZ/1ZZ <-> E153? Maybe... Options

[Silver94CelicaOw...]

I found this discussion on NewCelica.org about trying to shoehorn the E153 transmission onto the later ZZ series engines by Toyota via an adaptor kit...

http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?t=213963

Thought that it was really interesting....not only for the turbo 2ZZGE guys on that forum that desire a more rugged gearbox option, but somebody else mentioned that it would allow cars like the SW20 MR2, Corolla, STxxx and ATxxx Celicas, Currens, Camrys, Solara, you name it to use the 2ZZ motor with ease in those chassis. Also, in theory you could use such a kit in a reverse role and use the components from the kit that allow the E153 to mount up to the 2ZZGE block on a Lotus Elise, and thus allowing for the use of S-series Toyota motors in a Lotus Elise by changing one mount only.

Can you say, 3SGTE powered Elise? BEAMS powered Elise even?? How about a 2ZZ powered ST202/204, ATxxx? Interesting stuff.

[sinner96ST]

nice find, but i'm not a huge fan of the 2zz's.

in terms of price/power ratio, a 3s will still be the leader of the pack. a 2zz rev's really high, sounds great, but it really reacts poorly to mods, in comparison to other motors in the same class.

by the time you got done spending all the cash on a full blown 2zz swap in a 6th gen, not to mention screwing with the wiring and everything else, you could've tossed in a 3s with upgrades, and be making lots more power for your dollar.

besides, a turbo'd 5s or 7a will make the same if not more than a boosted 2zz, and will be infinitely less complicated & less expensive. those turbo kits they sell aren't cheap. plus, as i understand it, the newer GT-S's use a drive by wire system, which complicates things even more.

it really is a shame, because the 2zz should be so much more than it is. you really need deep, deep pockets to get a lot out of that motor.