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post Nov 21, 2006 - 11:26 PM
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Michael Richards you broke my heart and you ruined one of my favorite television characters. You embarrassed and offended me, not only as a white man, but as just a man.

To live in such a time when great leaps of advancement in technology and medicine can show the universe how bright and charismatic we humans can be, you come about and show the world how primitive and blatantly hateful our pathetic existence is.

Seinfeld, the series, may have ended in 1998, but this past weekend was the death of Kramer and the dawning of a bigot. How sorry we all should be for what has transcended. When the sun rises tomorrow I ask we learn from Mr. Richards' hate and accept each other as what and who we are, not black, not white, just humans.


 
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post Nov 22, 2006 - 12:50 PM
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I find it ironic that if a white person says anything like this everyone jumps on their backs, where as people like Kanye West can spue racist crap all day and nobody demands an official apology.
post Nov 22, 2006 - 5:34 PM
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QUOTE(Rjb23 @ Nov 22, 2006 - 12:50 PM) [snapback]504517[/snapback]

I find it ironic that if a white person says anything like this everyone jumps on their backs, where as people like Kanye West can spue racist crap all day and nobody demands an official apology.


Everyone should truely close their eyes, and imagine living in the world of slavery. It feels imaginary, but it's not. It really happened, and white people treated black people like animals.

That is why we do not use derogatory terms towards black people.


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post Nov 23, 2006 - 12:07 AM
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QUOTE(DomGT @ Nov 22, 2006 - 5:34 PM) [snapback]504595[/snapback]

QUOTE(Rjb23 @ Nov 22, 2006 - 12:50 PM) [snapback]504517[/snapback]

I find it ironic that if a white person says anything like this everyone jumps on their backs, where as people like Kanye West can spue racist crap all day and nobody demands an official apology.


Everyone should truely close their eyes, and imagine living in the world of slavery. It feels imaginary, but it's not. It really happened, and white people treated black people like animals.

That is why we do not use derogatory terms towards black people.



What happened in the past should stay in the past. The fact that instead of learning from what happened, we sorta don't. To tell you the truth I dislike any racism at all. Howeevr you cant really do anything about it. People use the word F**k all the time right? Especially when cursing at someone... calling people racist words are now engraved into everyone of us as an insult.

Again...... I hate RACIST people...... but you cant escape it one way or another... What troubles me is that a lot of people sometimes take it too far and use the racist card to eagerly. Plus what bothers me more nowadays is that..... whenever people here "racism" its always white ------> @ blacks...

WRONG !!----- not anymore...

I every race there will be a handfull of people that are racist towards itself or against another race. One way or another..

Many of us have an automatic response to anger, hate, pissed off etc. We curse PERIOD. It's a way of showing anger and somehow possibly demoralize the other party we are angry at... yea well... like the word (insert curses here) attacking one's race during a fit is also a response...

Am I racist for believing this? No... In every race we have a good side, and we have a bad side.

To not offend anyone let me make an example of my own. I'm Asian - Filipino. And of course like all RACE there is two categories. Bad one and a good one. There are filipinos and flips. Although Flip is not as a bad word compared to certain other things because it wasnt emphasize nor do people really care.


Getting angry doesn't make you racist... being ignorant does.


From my experience, going to an area or living in an area with a one majority dominant race tends to create racism...

An example from my own experience, I live in Brooklyn all my life. I went to a neighborhood were the majority is black. My high school was 98.9 black and Im one of the 3 people (not three percent) that make up the asian population in my school. My friends were mix, everytime we travel to go see a movie hang out, we're like a melting pot.

White friend (Italian) of mine dating a black a girl
Black friend of mine (Whose a puertorican jewish) datin a white girl
as well as more.

For four years in high school, I received just as much racist comments as any one race living in a different pre dominant race neighborhood/school. It friggin happens...

all jokes aside, I had many black people even kids looked at me as if I was inferior because I was DIFFERENT. Thats how ignorance work and thats how racism work. If you see someone inferior just because he/she is different from the others around you is friggin racism- because its ignorance, and thats what pisses me.

White being racist towards black? yea it happens, especially probably in a caucasian dominant neighborhoods.

But it's the same FOR EVERY scenario

Black, asian, white, spanish - whatever race its all the same. One way or another people will be racist. Depending on the dominance of the race, will yield the answer to that. dont believe me? Look at your school and neighborhood etc.

What he said is bad..... but... what bothers me right now is how come you put so much weight on the N word? Isn't calling him a "mot*******r" also bad tongue.gif

Is he really racist? Maybe, maybe not. He's angry, what do you expect an angry person to do? He singled him out without thinking by his skin color? It was very stupid.. but damn man... you can't hang the guy because of that. So what if the guy was chinese or something else and he calls him a degrading word that specifically aimed at that race? Would there be any difference?

The N word is stupid... White person cant use it, but the blacks can? Because of slavery issues? Dude how can the past end if everytime something happens a peson rides that with no hesitation. I'm not siding with any race here but just to let you guys know, the worse RACE ever TREATED in the history of United States, isn't black. It's the Native Americans! One way or another every race right now is doing well. Look at where the Native Americans are right now, many of them are still in some sort of reservation in the middle of nowhere. They are one of the most poorest race in the US. Their land got stolen, women and children got raped, their way of life was ruined (religion, their beliefs), forced into slavery, their history was destroyed, tribes were wiped out bc of war + diseased... I can go on!

That's why I'm friggin sick of people using the past as a reason..... It doesnt apply anymore because, theres no ONE specific race thats racist... everyone is one way or another.


Regarding that thing... yea the richard dude's reaction was stupid. But face it..... that dude that interupted him is a complete ass... you dont like it the show then leave.. Don't be an a*s and show some respect regardless..

I'm not RACIST but in my mind I've grown my own THEORY

THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF PEOPLE FOR EVERY RACE IN THIS WORLD.
1 - ONE TYPE IS THE ACTUAL ONES YOU CAN GET ALONG WITH. PEOPLE THAT YOU LITERALLY DONT SEE ANYMORE DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER PERSON BESIDE YOU. PEOPLE THAT MAKES UP 70% OF THE POPULATION. PROBABLY MORE?

2 - THEN THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO REALLY DO FIT IN THE CATEGORY OF (INSERT "RACIST" NAME HERE OF WHATEVER RACE ITS AIMED AT). THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ACTS LIKE IT TO A POINT THAT IT BECOMES A CATEGORY AND THUS THESE TYPE OF PEOPLE DESERVES IT.


In the end it's in the character of the person that really judges what type of person you are. Well if you act like it then you are it and thus you deserve it. biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by LeonStryfe: Nov 23, 2006 - 12:10 AM

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- Jdog1385   Kramer   Nov 21, 2006 - 11:26 PM
- - shin   well said justin. i heard bout the news on the rad...   Nov 21, 2006 - 11:43 PM
- - Batman722   for anyone that doesn't know, here's the l...   Nov 22, 2006 - 12:02 AM
- - amysmojo   i hadnt heard anything about it...thats crazy...   Nov 22, 2006 - 12:13 AM
- - Mynzeyes   He already issued a statement on the Leno show or ...   Nov 22, 2006 - 12:24 AM
|- - 6th_celi_vert   QUOTE(Mynzeyes @ Nov 22, 2006 - 12:2...   Nov 22, 2006 - 7:47 AM
- - hitcachi   Tru, but I dunno, I was still alittle shocked just...   Nov 22, 2006 - 3:20 AM
- - Jeremy1210   Enh, **** happens wake up and realize it. Remembe...   Nov 22, 2006 - 8:43 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   id do the same thing he did. maybe threw punches t...   Nov 22, 2006 - 9:29 AM
- - Digndoug   Im not racist, I dont dislike nor hate any one, of...   Nov 22, 2006 - 9:34 AM
- - Jdog1385   I think the people that are actually laughing when...   Nov 22, 2006 - 10:11 AM
- - bojangles_8686   He was just trying to keep that border between com...   Nov 22, 2006 - 10:30 AM
- - Rjb23   I find it ironic that if a white person says anyth...   Nov 22, 2006 - 12:50 PM
|- - 6th_celi_vert   QUOTE(Rjb23 @ Nov 22, 2006 - 12:50 P...   Nov 22, 2006 - 4:49 PM
||- - Jdog1385   QUOTE(6th_celi_vert @ Nov 22, 2006 - 4...   Nov 22, 2006 - 5:14 PM
|- - DomGT   QUOTE(Rjb23 @ Nov 22, 2006 - 12:50 P...   Nov 22, 2006 - 5:34 PM
|- - 6th_celi_vert   QUOTE(DomGT @ Nov 22, 2006 - 5:34 PM...   Nov 22, 2006 - 5:46 PM
|- - Rjb23   QUOTE(DomGT @ Nov 22, 2006 - 10:34 P...   Nov 22, 2006 - 5:47 PM
|- - LeonStryfe   QUOTE(DomGT @ Nov 22, 2006 - 5:34 PM...   Nov 23, 2006 - 12:07 AM
|- - saleeka   QUOTE(LeonStryfe @ Nov 22, 2006 - 11...   Nov 23, 2006 - 12:30 AM
- - yyet   I was just suprised that no one jumped on the stag...   Nov 22, 2006 - 3:42 PM
- - Mynzeyes   No, they just aren't pansies like the rest of ...   Nov 22, 2006 - 4:39 PM
- - lagos   he was way out of line, and said some horrible stu...   Nov 22, 2006 - 4:48 PM
- - Jdog1385   QUOTEI realize that's shocking, but one day yo...   Nov 22, 2006 - 5:09 PM
|- - Mynzeyes   QUOTE(Jdog1385 @ Nov 22, 2006 - 4:09...   Nov 22, 2006 - 5:34 PM
|- - saleeka   QUOTE(Mynzeyes @ Nov 22, 2006 - 4:34...   Nov 22, 2006 - 11:15 PM
- - uberschall   i have no comment on the whole underlying issue, b...   Nov 22, 2006 - 5:15 PM
- - Batman722   I agree. but what I would like to know is what wa...   Nov 22, 2006 - 5:37 PM
- - Batman722   and his apology/reasoning/explaination on letterma...   Nov 22, 2006 - 5:45 PM
- - Batman722   guys let's not make this a back and forth raci...   Nov 22, 2006 - 5:56 PM
- - lagos   yeah its all a double standard. id like to know e...   Nov 22, 2006 - 5:58 PM
- - BlackCelicaGT94   Id forgive him. Ive been upset and out of anger sa...   Nov 22, 2006 - 5:59 PM
- - Mike   Black comedians make fun of whites all the time, i...   Nov 22, 2006 - 8:25 PM
- - BlackCelicaGT94   Just watched EXTRA and they showed the guys who we...   Nov 22, 2006 - 8:30 PM
- - saleeka   I personally feel that insulting/attacking anybody...   Nov 22, 2006 - 11:06 PM
- - BlackCelicaGT94   I just dont think people should get upset over a w...   Nov 22, 2006 - 11:19 PM
- - saleeka   I agree with you Nat- but there is a strong distin...   Nov 22, 2006 - 11:26 PM
- - sinner96ST   what i find funny is the whole "we're bla...   Nov 23, 2006 - 1:19 AM
- - amysmojo   I bet this thread is gonna get closed sooner or la...   Nov 23, 2006 - 3:05 PM
- - Jdog1385   QUOTE(amysmojo @ Nov 23, 2006 - 3:05...   Nov 23, 2006 - 3:18 PM


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