6-speed trannys???, anyone droppin 6-speed trannys into their car, or have... Options

[mneal2_92788]

has anyone dropped a 6-speed into their celica or if not can you??? if so on either, how much does it cost and where do i find it???

[baddisintegra]

What sort of wonders? Having six gears doesn't make a car magically faster. ALSO... you can't compare RWD trannies to FWD trannies. Why? Toyota has been using the same FWD trannies for the better part of 20 years.

well thats just goes to tell you why fix something that isnt broke...and the wonders a 6spd tranny can do:

-7gen celica/matrix tranny--good for n/a applications
-tiburon tranny--good for n/a appl
-05 maxima hlsd tranny--good nor n/a appl
-04-06 specV tranny--good for boost (almost identical gear ratios to EVO MR)

i'll post the gear ratios in another reply

A FACT!? really? Where? Where does it say Toyota, Hyundai, and Nissan all use the same 6 speed tranny?

well i am still on the verge of getting pictures to prove my claim, but i know (from the nissan world) that these tranny's were all able to fit to the sr20 fwd engine w/out adaptor plates and also on various engines--both n/a and boost

very technically sound advice here

well its not brain surgery, its just takes a little knowledge and know how around an engine bay--i am not able to give exact discriptions to actually donig this yet, but i gave the basics--i knowits not good enough information to do the swap rite now, but some people can acquire a feel for the swap from basics

Insightful!

Ok... seriously now... if you don't know these cars... just stop right there. Do research and come back when you're ready. You gotta read the posts before you make assumptions like these. There are OBVIOUSLY smarter more experienced guys chiming in here... so what makes you... a guy who is "speculating" and "not familiar" qualified?

well i have been around toyota's for a little while, mostly 2jz's/7m's--i have never had the oppurtunity to actually sit and study the vehicle as i did others...but that doesnt stop me from knowing what is common for vehicles in general--if a v6 1mz can be fitted into a 6gc that means there is enough room to play in the engine--its why i've made my assumptions---whether they are wrong or rite is still yet to be proven, but as of now you or no one else on this board can say that this swap cant be done...a few threads up has a member with a 6spd box mated to a 3sge--just waiting to see which six speed it actually is

This post has been edited by baddisintegra: Dec 1, 2006 - 5:40 PM

[Kwanza26]

well thats just goes to tell you why fix something that isnt broke...and the wonders a 6spd tranny can do:

-7gen celica/matrix tranny--good for n/a applications
-tiburon tranny--good for n/a appl
-05 maxima hlsd tranny--good nor n/a appl
-04-06 specV tranny--good for boost (almost identical gear ratios to EVO MR)

i'll post the gear ratios in another reply

That's not what we're talking about here. We're not talking about "OTHER" cars and their 6 speed trannies... we're talking about reasoning behind wanting to put a 6 speed into a 6th Gen Celica and what options are available.

well i am still on the verge of getting pictures to prove my claim, but i know (from the nissan world) that these tranny's were all able to fit to the sr20 fwd engine w/out adaptor plates and also on various engines--both n/a and boost

Prove your claim by listing tranny codes. You're not about to tell me I can pick and choose whatever brand 6 speed tranny and just 'bolt-on' with an adaptor plate. If that's what you're telling me... well... you need to go back to school.

well its not brain surgery, its just takes a little knowledge and know how around an engine bay--i am not able to give exact discriptions to actually donig this yet, but i gave the basics--i knowits not good enough information to do the swap rite now, but some people can acquire a feel for the swap from basics

Note my sarcasm. You're basically saying you don't know and are not sure... but it can be done! Well... yeah... but we're not talking about whether or not it can/cannot be done. We're talking about whether it's worthwhile and HOW and WHAT it needs to be done.

well i have been around toyota's for a little while, mostly 2jz's/7m's--i have never had the oppurtunity to actually sit and study the vehicle as i did others...but that doesnt stop me from knowing what is common for vehicles in general--if a v6 1mz can be fitted into a 6gc that means there is enough room to play in the engine--its why i've made my assumptions---whether they are wrong or rite is still yet to be proven, but as of now you or no one else on this board can say that this swap cant be done...a few threads up has a member with a 6spd box mated to a 3sge--just waiting to see which six speed it actually is

Hahaha... ok... ok... I give up. It's useless to knock sense into someone who just doesn't understand. First off... that picture posted was a 4AGE blacktop 20V... and it came STOCK with that 6 speed tranny. THERE ARE NO STOCK FWD 6 SPEED TRANNIES FOR THE S SERIES MOTORS! PERIOD! The MZ series can be fitted because they share the same tranny as the 3S series... in turn mounts and axles are similar enough to NOT be a headache. Your assumptions have already been PROVEN wrong. You may not think so... but do a search!

Spec-v 02-03 (n/a)

1 : 3.417:1______36.3 _____1-2 4551
2 : 1.944:1______63.7______2-3 5176
3 : 1.258:1______98.6______3-4 6022
4 : 0.947:1______130.9_____4-5 6530
5 : 0.773:1______160.4_____5-6 6520
6 : 0.630:1______196.8
Final drive : 4.429:1
2439rpm @ 60mph

spec v 04-06 (boost)

1st: 3.153_______42.1_______1-2 4932
2nd: 1.944_______68.3_______2-3 5728
3rd: 1.392 _______95.4_______3-4 6063
4th: 1.055_______125.9______4-5 6134
5th: 0.809 _______164.2______5-6 6655
6th: 0.673_______197.4
Reverse: 3.002
Final drive 4.133
2431rpm @ 60mph

05 Maxima HLSD (n/a)

1st 3.153 = 13.031___42.36mph
2nd 1.944 = 8.034____68.71
3rd 1.392 = 5.753____95.95
4th 1.055 = 4.360____126.6
5th 0.809 = 3.343____165.13
6th 0.630 = 2.604____211.98
Reverse 3.002
Final Gear 4.133_______2264rpm @ 60 mph

Toyota Celica GTS/ Matrix XRS (n/a)

1 : 3.166:1 = 14.333____38.51mph__5181rpm
2 : 2.050:1 = 9.284_____59.46_____5779
3 : 1.481:1 = 6.707_____82.30_____6299
4 : 1.166:1 = 5.281_____104.53____6283
5 : 0.916:1 = 4.148_____133.08____6522
6 : 0.725:1 = 3.382_____163.22
Final drive : 4.529:1________2941rpm @ 60 mph

Tibiron gear ratios (n/a)

1. 3.153 = 13.961_____39.54mph___4932
2. 1.944 = 8.608______64.13______5485
3. 1.333 = 5.902______93.53______6331
4. 1.055 = 4.671______118.18_____6499
5. 0.857 = 3.795______145.46_____6570
6. 0.704 = 3.117______177.10
Reverse 3.002
Final gear ratio 4.428_______2711mph @ 60 mph

Wanna know a secret? ALL CARS HAVE GEAR RATIOS!

Posting that a car with 6 gears actually has 6 gears is pointless.