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post Dec 3, 2006 - 3:54 PM
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just wondering if any of you guys are using a universal silencer on a 3in tip muffler and what you would recommend?

im not looking to make my exhaust quieter, but i am looking to restrict the air flow a bit. i noticed that with my ebc totally off, my boost creep is crazy. it starts to hit 7psi and it stays there under 4k, but from 4-7k it starts to boost creep to 14psi. thats a lot of creep! im thinking that maybe i can create some backpressure with a silencer so that the WG has less exhaust flow to deal with. i figure the silencer is cheap enough to give it a shot. im also going to test my WG to make sure its not hitting the 3in DP i have.

so, post some silencer links guys and tell me what you use!


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post Jan 7, 2007 - 12:36 PM
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This whole approach to me seem very ill-advised. We open up our exhausts to access additional horsepower. Then, if there is a boost creep issue, we restrict the exhaust?

Why spend several hundred dollars on the performance exhaust in the first place?

Creeping boost is NOT an automatic problem with a free flowing exhaust on a ct-26 equipped car. In fact, I could get the gt28rs (with a similarly sized wastegate but much more flow) to hold at 11psi on a full 3" exhaust equipped car.

Something is wrong. My recommend is to diagnose the problem and then repair it.


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i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Jan 7, 2007 - 1:20 PM
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QUOTE(jgreening @ Jan 7, 2007 - 5:36 PM) [snapback]515855[/snapback]

This whole approach to me seem very ill-advised. We open up our exhausts to access additional horsepower. Then, if there is a boost creep issue, we restrict the exhaust?

Why spend several hundred dollars on the performance exhaust in the first place?

Creeping boost is NOT an automatic problem with a free flowing exhaust on a ct-26 equipped car. In fact, I could get the gt28rs (with a similarly sized wastegate but much more flow) to hold at 11psi on a full 3" exhaust equipped car.

Something is wrong. My recommend is to diagnose the problem and then repair it.


The problem of the boost creep IS caused by the exhaust being too free flowing and the wastegate on the CT series Turbo not being big enough to cope with the extra exhaust gases produced by modified cars and wider exhaust systems. Nothing is wrong with you car, the turbo wastegate is the problem....it can be ported, ie make the twin port of the CT turbo into one big port....that should cure the boost creep issues, but you have to be handy with a grinding stone and VERY sure of what you where doing......gt28rs turbos have a better more free flowing waste gate design, thus dont suffer the boost creep issues of the CT range.

a 3sgte engine running any ct turbo dose not need a 3" exhaust at all. 2.75" is more than enough.

Unfortunately I have no pictures of a restrictor plate, but you could very easily fabricate one....kind of like an exhaust gasket with a smaller hole in the middle.

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Posts in this topic
- lagos   exhaust silencers   Dec 3, 2006 - 3:54 PM
- - Kadett   I know Apexi makes one for there N1 exhaust.   Dec 3, 2006 - 4:06 PM
- - shin   dunno if it helps but i used to have a silencer on...   Dec 3, 2006 - 4:08 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(shin @ Dec 3, 2006 - 4:08 PM) ...   Dec 3, 2006 - 4:09 PM
|- - shin   QUOTE(lagos @ Dec 3, 2006 - 9:09 PM)...   Dec 3, 2006 - 4:14 PM
- - lagos   yep, thats exactly why you dont have creep issues....   Dec 3, 2006 - 4:32 PM
- - celiracer   I bought a Reactive exhaust system for my g/f...   Dec 3, 2006 - 4:44 PM
- - lagos   i might give this a try: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebay...   Dec 3, 2006 - 5:42 PM
- - netrata   I have that silencer but I took it off of my n1 st...   Dec 3, 2006 - 6:21 PM
|- - LewFX   QUOTE(netrata @ Dec 3, 2006 - 4:21 P...   Jan 7, 2007 - 2:47 PM
- - lagos   damn well. i think a large part of it will have t...   Dec 3, 2006 - 8:12 PM
|- - netrata   QUOTE(lagos @ Dec 3, 2006 - 8:12 PM)...   Dec 3, 2006 - 8:22 PM
- - jgreening   How about fixing the creeping problem rather than ...   Dec 3, 2006 - 10:49 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(jgreening @ Dec 3, 2006 - 10:4...   Dec 3, 2006 - 10:57 PM
|- - Punisher   QUOTE(lagos @ Dec 3, 2006 - 10:57 PM...   Dec 3, 2006 - 11:56 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(Punisher @ Dec 3, 2006 - 11:56...   Dec 4, 2006 - 6:07 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE(Punisher @ Dec 3, 2006 - 11:56...   Dec 4, 2006 - 12:20 AM
- - Batman722   Art, if you want a band-aid for the winter, why no...   Dec 4, 2006 - 12:54 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE(Batman722 @ Dec 4, 2006 - 12:5...   Dec 4, 2006 - 1:14 AM
- - Hanyo   keep us posted.... I always look forward to your p...   Dec 4, 2006 - 5:10 AM
- - Punisher   Art.. why do you continue to think that an externa...   Dec 4, 2006 - 9:55 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   could you just turn the boost down for the winter?...   Dec 4, 2006 - 10:46 AM
- - brianforster   punisher i agree with manny you seem to be a tad b...   Dec 4, 2006 - 10:54 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE(x_itchy_b_x @ Dec 4, 2006 - 10...   Dec 4, 2006 - 1:42 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(Punisher @ Dec 4, 2006 - 9:55 ...   Dec 4, 2006 - 1:49 PM
- - WannabeGT4   Hey Arthur. Did you fix your creeping problem?   Jan 7, 2007 - 12:37 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE(WannabeGT4 @ Jan 7, 2007 - 12...   Jan 7, 2007 - 3:15 AM
- - Insanity-74   Why dont you just fit a restrictor plate between t...   Jan 7, 2007 - 8:40 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE(Insanity-74 @ Jan 7, 2007 - 8...   Jan 7, 2007 - 10:50 AM
- - jgreening   This whole approach to me seem very ill-advised. ...   Jan 7, 2007 - 12:36 PM
|- - Insanity-74   QUOTE(jgreening @ Jan 7, 2007 - 5:36...   Jan 7, 2007 - 1:20 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(Insanity-74 @ Jan 7, 2007 - 1...   Jan 7, 2007 - 1:36 PM
- - Insanity-74   Or you could fit a rally style 38mm restrictor hou...   Jan 7, 2007 - 1:26 PM
- - Insanity-74   Fare enough...have it your way then......how about...   Jan 7, 2007 - 1:42 PM
- - jgreening   There isn't just one solution. It depends on ...   Jan 7, 2007 - 2:15 PM
|- - Insanity-74   QUOTE(jgreening @ Jan 7, 2007 - 7:15...   Jan 7, 2007 - 4:28 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(Insanity-74 @ Jan 7, 2007 - 3...   Jan 7, 2007 - 4:41 PM
- - playr158   QUOTE(jgreening @ Jan 7, 2007 - 2:15...   Jan 7, 2007 - 3:05 PM
- - Insanity-74   Likewise...most definately no offense taken at all...   Jan 7, 2007 - 4:49 PM
- - Speedy2k   I say just keep ur exhaust stock and add an electr...   Jan 7, 2007 - 11:49 PM
- - lagos   lol...calm down guys. i am in no way thinking abou...   Jan 8, 2007 - 1:27 AM
- - OOBE   You'll be fine. In my Supra all I had was a 3...   Jan 8, 2007 - 12:43 PM
- - lagos   i found a good solution to my boost creep problem....   Jan 11, 2007 - 7:29 PM
- - Punisher   It's probably because it takes most of your ex...   Jan 11, 2007 - 10:05 PM


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