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post Jan 19, 2007 - 1:07 PM
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iono if this has already been asked, but how does a 3s swapped celi compare to other cars? could it beat a 5.0 mustang? i heard it was about as fast as an srt4 but iono...thx for any replies.
 
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post Jan 19, 2007 - 4:35 PM
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QUOTE(playr158 @ Jan 19, 2007 - 3:56 PM) [snapback]519327[/snapback]

i don't think a basic 2nd gen swap is really going to net you more then mid 13s..

the mr2 13.2 i think would be attributed to less weight, midship rwd platform
your really not going to start to see low 13s to a 12.9 until you start doing a bit more work to your car, more practice at the strip and better launches


one other thing to remember.

2nd gen mr2's make about 200hp at the wheels bpu.
2nd gen jdm swap celicas make about 230/240hp/tq bpu (better intercooler and jdm ecu)

so if the mr2 can run a 13.2 with the advantage of mid engine/rwd, then i think a celica could hit that same 1/4 mile with the 30-40hp that it makes over the mr2, and with some slicks and suspension upgrades.


EDIT: something funny came to mind. the owners of the local dyno around here had a really high hp del sol. the car was a beast and i think it did around 500hp? i was talking to the guy and he said that when they took it to the track, it only ran a mid 13. .... so that just goes to show that its not the hp, but the fwd platform that limits you in getting good 1/4 times.


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post Jan 20, 2007 - 2:00 AM
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QUOTE(lagos @ Jan 19, 2007 - 4:35 PM) [snapback]519332[/snapback]

EDIT: something funny came to mind. the owners of the local dyno around here had a really high hp del sol. the car was a beast and i think it did around 500hp? i was talking to the guy and he said that when they took it to the track, it only ran a mid 13. .... so that just goes to show that its not the hp, but the fwd platform that limits you in getting good 1/4 times.


so would converting the Celica to the AWD platform make it perform better in the 1/4? has anyone been able to test this?


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post Jan 20, 2007 - 9:51 AM
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QUOTE(NgoFcukinWay @ Jan 19, 2007 - 11:00 PM) [snapback]519439[/snapback]



so would converting the Celica to the AWD platform make it perform better in the 1/4? has anyone been able to test this?



why would we need to do the conversion? Why would we need to test it out?

we have REAL gt4 with awd transmission that come with st205 3sgte motors in them stock. They can easily run 14 second quarter miles.

The main thing that slow down front wheel drive cars on the quarter mile is weight.

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- hashmaster52   wut can a stock 3s swap hang with???   Jan 19, 2007 - 1:07 PM
- - playr158   probably as fast as a stock SRT4 should beat anyfo...   Jan 19, 2007 - 1:12 PM
|- - hashmaster52   QUOTE(playr158 @ Jan 19, 2007 - 1:12...   Jan 19, 2007 - 1:41 PM
- - playr158   2nd gen should be able to do that list, considerin...   Jan 19, 2007 - 1:43 PM
|- - hashmaster52   QUOTE(playr158 @ Jan 19, 2007 - 1:43...   Jan 19, 2007 - 1:48 PM
- - playr158   jeff ran a 13.9 last year @ 12 or 13psi on an RC18...   Jan 19, 2007 - 1:55 PM
|- - hashmaster52   QUOTE(playr158 @ Jan 19, 2007 - 1:55...   Jan 19, 2007 - 2:39 PM
|- - HaRv3sTeR   QUOTE(playr158 @ Jan 19, 2007 - 6:55...   Jan 19, 2007 - 6:02 PM
|- - alltracman78   QUOTE(HaRv3sTeR @ Jan 19, 2007 - 6:0...   Feb 11, 2007 - 8:20 PM
- - lagos   i was just talking about 1/4mile times with someon...   Jan 19, 2007 - 2:49 PM
- - TTE   I've seen some MR2s runing 13.2 with boost con...   Jan 19, 2007 - 2:55 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(TTE @ Jan 19, 2007 - 2:55 PM) ...   Jan 19, 2007 - 2:58 PM
- - hashmaster52   how do u know wut gen it is? is there a 2nd gen an...   Jan 19, 2007 - 2:58 PM
- - lagos   st185 = 2nd gen st205 = 3rd gen   Jan 19, 2007 - 3:03 PM
|- - hashmaster52   QUOTE(lagos @ Jan 19, 2007 - 3:03 PM...   Jan 19, 2007 - 3:06 PM
- - playr158   i don't think a basic 2nd gen swap is really g...   Jan 19, 2007 - 3:56 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   mr2 weigh more than celicas dont they?. atleast i ...   Jan 19, 2007 - 4:22 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(playr158 @ Jan 19, 2007 - 3:56...   Jan 19, 2007 - 4:35 PM
|- - NgoFcukinWay   QUOTE(lagos @ Jan 19, 2007 - 4:35 PM...   Jan 20, 2007 - 2:00 AM
|- - ExSane   QUOTE(NgoFcukinWay @ Jan 20, 2007 - 2...   Jan 20, 2007 - 3:38 AM
|- - Hanyo   QUOTE(NgoFcukinWay @ Jan 19, 2007 - 11...   Jan 20, 2007 - 9:51 AM
- - markie   sigh.. what can a stock 5sfe keep up with? a geo ...   Jan 19, 2007 - 4:40 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   QUOTE(markie @ Jan 19, 2007 - 6:40 P...   Jan 19, 2007 - 4:57 PM
|- - XS4lv1Truch0x   QUOTE(x_itchy_b_x @ Jan 19, 2007 - 1...   Jan 19, 2007 - 8:20 PM
- - easternpiro1   may take mine to the strip sunday...will let ya kn...   Jan 19, 2007 - 6:53 PM
- - 6G94celica   So how about a 2nd gen with FMIC, forged pistons, ...   Jan 20, 2007 - 6:44 PM
|- - Hanyo   QUOTE(6G94celica @ Jan 20, 2007 - 3...   Jan 20, 2007 - 6:53 PM
- - playr158   QUOTE(6G94celica @ Jan 20, 2007 - 6...   Jan 20, 2007 - 7:07 PM
|- - easternpiro1   QUOTE(playr158 @ Jan 20, 2007 - 7:07...   Jan 21, 2007 - 3:20 AM
- - 6G94celica   well the gt tranny wouldnt hold up to taht kind of...   Jan 20, 2007 - 7:19 PM
- - hitcachi   ^ Punctuation?? ^ GT tranny will hold. The S54 has...   Jan 21, 2007 - 3:18 AM
- - playr158   yes i'm laughing at you, rofl rofl   Jan 21, 2007 - 3:22 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE(easternpiro1 @ Jan 21, 2007 - 3...   Jan 21, 2007 - 3:26 AM
- - easternpiro1   that may also be VERY true ^^ and i figured d...   Jan 21, 2007 - 4:09 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(easternpiro1 @ Jan 21, 2007 - 4...   Jan 21, 2007 - 6:47 AM
|- - easternpiro1   QUOTE(presure2 @ Jan 21, 2007 - 6:47...   Jan 22, 2007 - 3:50 PM
- - playr158   xact?   Jan 22, 2007 - 6:39 PM
|- - easternpiro1   QUOTE(playr158 @ Jan 22, 2007 - 6:39...   Jan 22, 2007 - 7:54 PM
- - NgoFcukinWay   or exedy? expensive clutches.   Jan 22, 2007 - 10:32 PM
- - playr158   exedy = start with E xact = start with X jus giv...   Jan 23, 2007 - 8:59 AM
|- - NgoFcukinWay   QUOTE(playr158 @ Jan 23, 2007 - 8:59...   Jan 24, 2007 - 11:51 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   XTD? ebay brand   Jan 25, 2007 - 10:57 AM
- - 95CelicaRacer   Any 2nd gen could beat a SRT4 But someone needs to...   Jan 29, 2007 - 9:53 AM
|- - block   QUOTE(95CelicaRacer @ Jan 29, 2007 - 8...   Feb 10, 2007 - 11:55 PM
- - 95CelicaRacer   The reason a 2nd gen celica can beat an srt-4 is b...   Feb 13, 2007 - 12:13 PM
|- - hashmaster52   QUOTE(95CelicaRacer @ Feb 13, 2007 - 12...   Feb 21, 2007 - 12:20 AM
- - urbandork   my list of cars ive out ran or hung with from a 30...   Feb 14, 2007 - 3:08 AM
- - Bbuck35   aha i hear ya markie , i got a 7afe... i think the...   Feb 23, 2007 - 12:40 PM


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