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post Jan 29, 2007 - 8:43 AM
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hi all, i got a qiuck question, i got a stock 7afe with 4 into 1 headers and a performance filter and 17inch wheels, on sat we had a dyno day and my car made 76 kw at the wheels and 147 nm torque, it makes max torque at about 4000rpm and at max kw just after 4500rpm. there after it doesnt do much in the way of speed, i struggle to reach 195km/h my my friend with a stock 4age motor passes me like i'm standing still, the motor is newly rebuilt, question is why am i being creamed. the car pulls strong up untlill 3rd gear but when i put it in 4th i'ts all show and no go. is the dyno figures about right or not the workshop manual says it does 86kw dont know where the measure it though.
 
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post Jan 31, 2007 - 7:38 PM
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Wow, I'm not trying to knock anyone's methods, and apologize if I've offended anyone. In this particular case it can help gains (minimal as it may be), but for someone that has just rebuilt their engine you have to admit that there could "potentially," I'm not gonna say there will be, but potentially adverse effects in the future. If you wanna recommend someone do something you should probably go all out.
For example, if you're going to advance your timing there's more you have to do in preventative maintenance. You'll need colder sparking plugs because the increase in timing increases the end temperature of your spark. You'll have to run higher octane, in this instance he already does but not for any real given reason. Other things follow, you can cause internal engine damage if the proper procedures aren't taken to take care of your engine.
"Timing is controlled by the relationship of the position of the piston to when the spark occurs. If the ignition spark occurs too soon it can actually push against a piston traveling up the cylinder as it's compressing the fuel/air mixture. This causes detonation, lost power, much higher combustion temperatures as well as higher emissions and early internal engine part failures." smile.gif

I'm pretty sure I understand timing, thanks though.

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- Toynado   7afe loss of power   Jan 29, 2007 - 8:43 AM
- - Bitter   the 86kw is probably at the crank, so 76 to the wh...   Jan 29, 2007 - 9:43 PM
|- - Toynado   QUOTE(Bitter @ Jan 29, 2007 - 9:43 P...   Jan 31, 2007 - 6:53 AM
|- - Toynado   QUOTE(Bitter @ Jan 29, 2007 - 9:43 P...   Jan 31, 2007 - 6:58 AM
|- - hatchy_gt-s   QUOTE(Bitter @ Jan 30, 2007 - 2:43 A...   Feb 15, 2007 - 8:55 PM
- - 97lestyousay   QUOTE(Toynado @ Jan 29, 2007 - 5:43 ...   Jan 29, 2007 - 10:31 PM
- - Bitter   well running higher octane without anything that n...   Jan 31, 2007 - 1:41 PM
- - playr158   1st hint why u have no powar........it starts with...   Jan 31, 2007 - 4:16 PM
|- - Bitter   QUOTE(playr158 @ Jan 31, 2007 - 4:16...   Jan 31, 2007 - 4:29 PM
|- - rayneezy23   QUOTE(playr158 @ Jan 31, 2007 - 4:16...   Feb 3, 2007 - 10:59 PM
- - GTS13   Ok, here's a few suggestions. Adding headers ...   Jan 31, 2007 - 5:45 PM
- - Bitter   advancing the timing does show nice gains for the ...   Jan 31, 2007 - 6:18 PM
- - GTS13   Wow, I'm not trying to knock anyone's meth...   Jan 31, 2007 - 7:38 PM
- - Bitter   the risk of damage at 15 degrees base timing is pr...   Feb 1, 2007 - 7:37 PM
- - GTS13   I just wanted to make sure he knew everything befo...   Feb 2, 2007 - 2:23 PM
- - OOBE   It's sad that my stock 599cc Ninja has more HP...   Feb 3, 2007 - 11:42 PM
|- - Bitter   QUOTE(OOBE @ Feb 3, 2007 - 11:42 PM)...   Feb 4, 2007 - 9:42 AM
- - OOBE   Well, a ZX-6RR, according to the specs "out t...   Feb 5, 2007 - 1:10 PM
- - Blakout16   well, i do have to agree that my 4afe is much more...   Feb 5, 2007 - 8:14 PM
- - alltracman78   His 147 is N/M, NOT lb/ft.... Take that into consi...   Feb 15, 2007 - 9:20 PM
- - hatchy_gt-s   QUOTE(alltracman78 @ Feb 16, 2007 - 2...   Feb 15, 2007 - 9:23 PM


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