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post Feb 10, 2007 - 12:11 AM
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There has been a gross understatement concerning the amount of vibration that is transfered to the cabin when using polyurethane motor mounts.

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post Feb 10, 2007 - 8:42 PM
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i have always wondered what about the people who use that 3m injection stuff on mounts to stiffen them up? anyone ever heard of this, tried it, etc?
post Feb 11, 2007 - 1:42 AM
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QUOTE(quicknstyle @ Feb 10, 2007 - 8:42 PM) [snapback]525795[/snapback]

i have always wondered what about the people who use that 3m injection stuff on mounts to stiffen them up? anyone ever heard of this, tried it, etc?



I used it on my 5th gen GTS.. front and rear.. it worked really well.. they are still in good condition and it didn't add much vibration at all. The only way to do it and have it work well is to clean the mounts out real well.. the rubber n what not.. then layer the 3m window weld in .. shallow layers let them cure.. just keep stacking it.. Expect your car to be down for 2 days .. best to get spare mounts. But once it's done you'll never need to worry about mounts again.


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post Feb 11, 2007 - 1:02 PM
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QUOTE(Punisher @ Feb 11, 2007 - 12:42 AM) [snapback]525868[/snapback]

QUOTE(quicknstyle @ Feb 10, 2007 - 8:42 PM) [snapback]525795[/snapback]

i have always wondered what about the people who use that 3m injection stuff on mounts to stiffen them up? anyone ever heard of this, tried it, etc?



I used it on my 5th gen GTS.. front and rear.. it worked really well.. they are still in good condition and it didn't add much vibration at all. The only way to do it and have it work well is to clean the mounts out real well.. the rubber n what not.. then layer the 3m window weld in .. shallow layers let them cure.. just keep stacking it.. Expect your car to be down for 2 days .. best to get spare mounts. But once it's done you'll never need to worry about mounts again.


I would not use window weld. Do a search on Celicatech. Chris D started a nice thread about the different options for materials for home made mounts. I used the liquid stuff mentioned in the thread - I forget the name of it right now and my mounts turned out great. I did not take the original rubber out but simply added the urethane to the existing mount. My theory for this was that I wanted a mount that had a shore hardness of about A75 to A80 and the material I purchased only came in A90. So, by leaving the stock rubber in there, I was able to effectively reduce the hardness of the entire mount. In my opinion, Kirk's inserts would save some time and hassel and you would probably never have to worry about them wearing. Most "home options" will wear at some point. However, it sounds like they are probably a little hard for most daily drivers.

This post has been edited by jgreening: Feb 11, 2007 - 2:51 PM


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i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Feb 13, 2007 - 9:27 PM
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QUOTE(jgreening @ Feb 11, 2007 - 12:02 PM) [snapback]525931[/snapback]

QUOTE(Punisher @ Feb 11, 2007 - 12:42 AM) [snapback]525868[/snapback]

QUOTE(quicknstyle @ Feb 10, 2007 - 8:42 PM) [snapback]525795[/snapback]

i have always wondered what about the people who use that 3m injection stuff on mounts to stiffen them up? anyone ever heard of this, tried it, etc?



I used it on my 5th gen GTS.. front and rear.. it worked really well.. they are still in good condition and it didn't add much vibration at all. The only way to do it and have it work well is to clean the mounts out real well.. the rubber n what not.. then layer the 3m window weld in .. shallow layers let them cure.. just keep stacking it.. Expect your car to be down for 2 days .. best to get spare mounts. But once it's done you'll never need to worry about mounts again.


I would not use window weld. Do a search on Celicatech. Chris D started a nice thread about the different options for materials for home made mounts. I used the liquid stuff mentioned in the thread - I forget the name of it right now and my mounts turned out great. I did not take the original rubber out but simply added the urethane to the existing mount. My theory for this was that I wanted a mount that had a shore hardness of about A75 to A80 and the material I purchased only came in A90. So, by leaving the stock rubber in there, I was able to effectively reduce the hardness of the entire mount. In my opinion, Kirk's inserts would save some time and hassel and you would probably never have to worry about them wearing. Most "home options" will wear at some point. However, it sounds like they are probably a little hard for most daily drivers.


I would assumed you would have used speedsource's ONE PIECE poly mounts? They're A LOT different than the kirk 2 piece inserts ..


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Posts in this topic
- WannabeGT4   Polyurethane Filled Motor Mounts   Feb 10, 2007 - 12:11 AM
- - Dr_Tweak   I recently took a customer for a ride in a 3SGTE s...   Feb 10, 2007 - 12:14 AM
- - jgreening   Mine weren't bad at all. It depends on what i...   Feb 10, 2007 - 12:38 AM
- - lagos   i have the ones from kirk. i noticed some slight s...   Feb 10, 2007 - 12:40 AM
|- - Punisher   QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 10, 2007 - 12:40 A...   Feb 10, 2007 - 12:46 AM
- - malecrod   ^^^same here. Initially I installed both the fron...   Feb 10, 2007 - 1:07 PM
|- - JesterDC   QUOTE(malecrod @ Feb 10, 2007 - 2:07...   Feb 10, 2007 - 4:35 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   i like the vibrations lol. reminds me of a big mac...   Feb 10, 2007 - 4:23 PM
- - bindertch   QUOTE(Punisher @ Feb 9, 2007 - 10:46...   Feb 10, 2007 - 5:07 PM
- - lagos   how do you figure that? the only thing that will ...   Feb 10, 2007 - 5:15 PM
- - quicknstyle   i have always wondered what about the people who u...   Feb 10, 2007 - 8:42 PM
|- - Punisher   QUOTE(quicknstyle @ Feb 10, 2007 - 8...   Feb 11, 2007 - 1:42 AM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(Punisher @ Feb 11, 2007 - 12:4...   Feb 11, 2007 - 1:02 PM
|- - snapshotgt   QUOTE(jgreening @ Feb 11, 2007 - 12...   Feb 13, 2007 - 9:27 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(snapshotgt @ Feb 13, 2007 - 8...   Feb 13, 2007 - 9:38 PM
|- - snapshotgt   QUOTE(jgreening @ Feb 13, 2007 - 8:3...   Feb 13, 2007 - 10:49 PM
- - Jen   This guy I know has solid aluminum mounts. Wheneve...   Feb 11, 2007 - 1:45 AM
|- - easternpiro1   yeah i have to agree that they are worrysome on co...   Feb 11, 2007 - 8:38 AM
|- - phattyduck   QUOTE(Jen @ Feb 10, 2007 - 10:45 PM)...   Feb 11, 2007 - 2:54 PM
- - bindertch   QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 10, 2007 - 3:15 PM...   Feb 11, 2007 - 8:45 AM
- - southwest2118   ya'll send one of those girrr.....oh..oh..i me...   Feb 12, 2007 - 2:45 AM
- - CilverSeliST205   Anyone wants me to make them brackets for adjustab...   Feb 12, 2007 - 11:33 AM
- - playr158   the motor will rock more front to back considering...   Feb 12, 2007 - 12:05 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   I've had the home-made poly mounts and they sh...   Feb 12, 2007 - 12:24 PM
- - playr158   anything under 700-800 rpm? dude my car doesn...   Feb 12, 2007 - 12:29 PM
- - CilverSeliST205   Guys with vibration noises - consider getting a st...   Feb 12, 2007 - 12:37 PM
- - Coomer   My mounts have been filled with Window Weld for a ...   Feb 12, 2007 - 2:18 PM


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