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post Feb 14, 2007 - 12:40 PM
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Alrighty,

I'm looking to perform the 5s-gte motor build-up and I'm trying to decide which gen. gte head to go with. I know the 2nd gen had the tvis system and the 3rd didn't. I also read on some guys page months ago (and now I can't find it) that the 3rd was a better casting. To me that didn't matter if the head is getting ported and polished, but I believe he said the 3rd already had larger ports. (he had both heads side-by-side for visual aid) Mainly I noticed the difference in the 2nd and 3rd is that the 3rd came with a slightly better turbo and different compression ratios (probably a more aggressively tuned ecu?). I asume that this is really the main contributing factor to the 50ish hp increase.

I just want to know if there is any real advantage of one head over the other.

I see that alot of member on here swap using the 2nd gen motor and have great success with it. Esspecialy with the ct26 turbo. I pretty much want about 250 to 300 whp as a daily driver and see that it's done with the full 2nd gen. 3sgte.

If there is no real huge advantage of one head over the other then I would go with the 2ng gen. due to it's easier to find, parts are also easier to find, and the fact that it's cheaper than the 3rd.



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post Feb 14, 2007 - 2:24 PM
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Actually the Gen II head flows more air on a flowbench.
It has MUCH larger ports than a Gen III.

The whole engine package stock however, probably Gen III.

With that said, the Gen III has a better INTAKE cam. The exhaust cam is the same specs.
I don't know which intake man flows better. Probably with the TVIS removed the gen II would, maybe even with the TVIS. It does have more overall volume in the runners I believe.



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- frosty   the 3sgte head difference   Feb 14, 2007 - 12:40 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   gen3 ct20b: gen2 ct26 gen3 540cc injectors: gen2 4...   Feb 14, 2007 - 1:02 PM
- - phattyduck   QUOTE(frosty @ Feb 14, 2007 - 9:40 A...   Feb 14, 2007 - 2:00 PM
- - jgreening   The gen III flows more air - no question about it.   Feb 14, 2007 - 2:01 PM
- - alltracman78   Actually the Gen II head flows more air on a flowb...   Feb 14, 2007 - 2:24 PM
- - lagos   why do you want a 5s-gte? you can get 250-300hp w...   Feb 14, 2007 - 3:07 PM
- - Punisher   2nd gen USDM engine and ecu stock fuel system 3...   Feb 14, 2007 - 8:28 PM
- - frosty   Yeah, I figured I would get some answers that didn...   Feb 16, 2007 - 11:03 AM
|- - phattyduck   QUOTE(frosty @ Feb 16, 2007 - 8:03 A...   Feb 16, 2007 - 2:15 PM
|- - JesterDC   QUOTE(phattyduck @ Feb 16, 2007 - 3...   Feb 17, 2007 - 5:57 PM
|- - alltracman78   QUOTE(JesterDC @ Feb 17, 2007 - 5:57...   Feb 18, 2007 - 8:46 AM
- - JesterDC   Go learn: http://www.mr2oc.com/showthread.php?t=86...   Feb 18, 2007 - 1:10 PM
|- - alltracman78   QUOTE(JesterDC @ Feb 18, 2007 - 1:10...   Feb 18, 2007 - 2:09 PM
- - phattyduck   Two things about the 5s block make it better: 1....   Feb 19, 2007 - 2:04 AM
|- - alltracman78   QUOTE(phattyduck @ Feb 19, 2007 - 2...   Feb 19, 2007 - 8:39 AM
|- - JesterDC   QUOTE(phattyduck @ Feb 19, 2007 - 3...   Feb 19, 2007 - 6:10 PM
- - alltracman78   RE: the 3sgte head difference   Feb 19, 2007 - 9:21 PM
- - ice23q   Thats got to be one of the best set of posts i hav...   Feb 20, 2007 - 4:26 PM
- - frosty   Man this is crazy, all I wanted to know was a head...   Feb 21, 2007 - 1:29 PM


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