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post Aug 6, 2003 - 1:22 AM
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ok before i hear you ask me why--- or something like i should import a gt4 or whatever... just anser me this (btw i did a search for this and found nothing) im geting a celica st for cheap (200$-500$) with a blown engine and im gunna throw a 3sgte in it... but... smile.gif ive been thinking...ok tell me can i get a old alltrack like a 3rd gen and swap the 3sgte and the tranny? what trouble would i run into? About how much would thbis cost? ok if i cant do that what other options are there to make this car 4wd?? any ideas welcome smile.gif
 
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post Aug 12, 2003 - 12:53 PM
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k - time to settle this debate...

Converting to AWD isnt worth it...period.

Trust me I know I did this conversion almost 2 years ago.

1st off.. you dont need the GT4 floor boards.. that is Jarco or toysport trying to sell more parts. Relocating the gastank and cutting out ur sparetire well will do the job just fine.

2nd... Im not sure if you can even do this in the 96-99 celicas, that depends on how the exhaust is ran.. the 94-95's are already tunneled for a driveshaft except the exhaust runs thought that area so you have to relocate it.

3rd... most of the rear axle will fit fine on the rear but you will need springs and struts for the GT4. we did have to do a couple of welds to fully support the rear end though and that is where we messed up.

when we welded the rear axle we where off on our measurements by just 2 to 3 degrees and what would happen is the rear end would try and steer the car to the right... which gets kinda scary at 100+ mph.

an alignment to counter this would help but only for about 1-2 weeks.. It just became too much of a hassle to keep up with it, so when I tore my car apart this last time I took the time to weigh my options and after about 6 months of debating which way to go.. and a nice offer for the rearend parts, I decided to scrap the awd and just return to FWD.


Point is.. YES IT CAN BE DONE... but is it worth it? I dont really think so but if you could have a shop do it and make sure everything is dead one then yea go for it.


BTW as for using a 5th gen alltrac rearend.. I would believe this would work just fine.. have been told that the rear axle is almost identical to the 6th gen one the only problem I could think off that you would run into is the drive shaft not being the right length but a good transmission or machine shop would be able to make a new driveshaft for 100-200 range.


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Posts in this topic
- FireinDC   4Wheel drive conversion   Aug 6, 2003 - 1:22 AM
- - FireinDC   also go here and look at the ST185 Celica will tha...   Aug 6, 2003 - 1:27 AM
- - 97sccelica   most everything supposedly bolts in, it just requ...   Aug 6, 2003 - 1:59 AM
- - kuya1284   QUOTE (FireinDC @ Aug 5, 2003 - 10:36 PM) ok ...   Aug 6, 2003 - 2:30 AM
- - Stipt   No one should attempt the AWD conversion unless th...   Aug 6, 2003 - 2:57 AM
- - Inferno   Matt said something about frame-holding pieces of ...   Aug 6, 2003 - 6:05 PM
- - Stipt   Its the welding that throws it off though, thats t...   Aug 6, 2003 - 10:02 PM
- - Inferno   Well, I can respect your attitude toward something...   Aug 7, 2003 - 7:31 PM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (Inferno @ Aug 7, 2003 - 5:31 PM) Well, I ca...   Aug 8, 2003 - 3:12 AM
- - Stipt   Who is currently doin' the process? I'm n...   Aug 8, 2003 - 3:47 PM
- - 97sccelica   qatar11 aka mike. he is mainly on celica.net he ...   Aug 8, 2003 - 4:44 PM
- - Coomer   I'm guessing that Mike will be able to pull it...   Aug 8, 2003 - 4:49 PM
- - Inferno   Matt is doing it as well, for his girlfriend. I t...   Aug 8, 2003 - 5:24 PM
- - 97sccelica   he hasn't really given too many updates, but h...   Aug 8, 2003 - 7:58 PM
- - Inferno   Interesting.   Aug 9, 2003 - 11:32 AM
- - aaronc222   From what I remember, he was taking his body/inter...   Aug 9, 2003 - 4:36 PM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (aaronc222 @ Aug 9, 2003 - 2:36 PM) From wha...   Aug 9, 2003 - 8:26 PM
- - Chrobis   NO, just no... no AWD, the gt-4 is built for being...   Aug 11, 2003 - 11:28 AM
- - SpedToe169   First of all, it is totally possible to weld parts...   Aug 11, 2003 - 5:57 PM
- - phat94celi   Why do an AWD conversion when RWD is much more fun...   Aug 11, 2003 - 9:59 PM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (phat94celi @ Aug 11, 2003 - 7:59 PM) Why do...   Aug 12, 2003 - 4:10 AM
- - NEVERSTOP   k - time to settle this debate... Converting to A...   Aug 12, 2003 - 12:53 PM
- - phat94celi   QUOTE (97sccelica @ Aug 12, 2003 - 2:10 AM) QUOTE ...   Aug 12, 2003 - 7:16 PM
- - 97sccelica   my 97 has the well for the drive shaft. and my ex...   Aug 12, 2003 - 10:22 PM
- - Matthew   QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Aug 12, 2003 - 10:53 AM) when w...   Aug 15, 2003 - 8:54 PM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (GT2GT4 @ Aug 15, 2003 - 6:54 PM) QUOTE (NEV...   Aug 16, 2003 - 7:14 PM


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