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post Mar 8, 2007 - 6:30 AM
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Ater i had several transmisson proplems. i realized that i need a stronger one. i decided to build a custom gearbox. so i can decide for ratios. what would you chose if you build one?
here is some ratios

......................Standart...................fensport.............custom
1 st gear......3.38 - 57 Km/h.............3.58....................?
2 nd gear.....1.91 - 100 Km/h...........2.045..................?
3 rd gear.....1.26 - 150 Km/h............1.33...................?
4 th gear.....0.92 - 210 Km/h............0.97...................?
5 th gear.....0.73 - 239 Km/h............0.73...................?

Final drive 4.285............................3.933...................?

can any one tell me what is relationship between final drive and gear ratios.
if gear ratio x final drive ratio is equal, speed is same.

those are thinks that i am planning to have.
*seq. Shifter

*new input and output shafts,
staright cut gears,
dog clutches,
hubs,
forks

*final drive (pinion and crown), front & rear


*front lsd
(not sure about front lsd, fensport is using stock one)

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post Mar 8, 2007 - 4:48 PM
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QUOTE(95celgt @ Mar 8, 2007 - 10:30 AM) [snapback]534269[/snapback]

Theoretically, the final drive changes the overall ratio to taller or shorter gearing, so by the looks of it the fensport has a bit higher top end, but i see the individual gears themselves are a bit shorter so it MIGHT cancel itself out, regardless the fensport might give you another 10-15 mph on 5 gear.


5th gear has the same ratio as stock so it shouldn't perform any different ?
post Mar 8, 2007 - 6:16 PM
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QUOTE(playr158 @ Mar 8, 2007 - 4:48 PM) [snapback]534369[/snapback]

QUOTE(95celgt @ Mar 8, 2007 - 10:30 AM) [snapback]534269[/snapback]

Theoretically, the final drive changes the overall ratio to taller or shorter gearing, so by the looks of it the fensport has a bit higher top end, but i see the individual gears themselves are a bit shorter so it MIGHT cancel itself out, regardless the fensport might give you another 10-15 mph on 5 gear.


5th gear has the same ratio as stock so it shouldn't perform any different ?

but the final drive is different, calculate that into the math.


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post Mar 8, 2007 - 7:31 PM
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Here is some basic information:

Understanding Gear Ratios

I suspect that the answer to your question depends on your desired application. If the answer is drag application, I strongly suspect that you will want to pick ratios that allow you to cross the finish line without shifting to fourth gear. This would require calculating what gear-set is necessary for your trap speed given the OD of your tires. Unfortunately, my knowledge of how to do that is lacking. Perhaps someone else can help in that regard.


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QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]

i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.

Posts in this topic
- tufy   project: dogbox transmission for st205   Mar 8, 2007 - 6:30 AM
- - 95celgt   Theoretically, the final drive changes the overall...   Mar 8, 2007 - 10:30 AM
- - Driveby   Not much help here but the fensport box is good fo...   Mar 8, 2007 - 4:38 PM
- - playr158   QUOTE(95celgt @ Mar 8, 2007 - 10:30 ...   Mar 8, 2007 - 4:48 PM
|- - Bitter   QUOTE(playr158 @ Mar 8, 2007 - 4:48 ...   Mar 8, 2007 - 6:16 PM
|- - jgreening   Here is some basic information: Understanding Gea...   Mar 8, 2007 - 7:31 PM
|- - tufy   QUOTE(Bitter @ Mar 8, 2007 - 11:16 P...   Mar 9, 2007 - 2:37 AM
- - Bitter   yes, you want the front and rear final drives to b...   Mar 9, 2007 - 9:22 AM
- - Wolf_tm   tufy, what kind of problems did you have with you...   Mar 11, 2007 - 6:29 AM
|- - tufy   QUOTE(Wolf_tm @ Mar 11, 2007 - 11:29...   Mar 12, 2007 - 2:58 AM
- - Wolf_tm   1000 nm torque of tte Wrc engines...   Mar 12, 2007 - 3:45 AM
- - Wolf_tm   tufy, do you use your car for track/fast road or d...   Mar 12, 2007 - 4:01 AM
|- - tufy   QUOTE(Wolf_tm @ Mar 12, 2007 - 9:01 ...   Mar 12, 2007 - 4:10 AM
|- - Wolf_tm   QUOTE(tufy @ Mar 12, 2007 - 10:10 AM...   Mar 12, 2007 - 6:20 AM
|- - tufy   QUOTE(Wolf_tm @ Mar 12, 2007 - 11:20...   Mar 12, 2007 - 6:48 AM
- - Wolf_tm   Ok tufy, let me explain... I have 2 friends with a...   Mar 12, 2007 - 4:58 AM
- - Wolf_tm   turbo pressure is only ONE of the values that part...   Mar 12, 2007 - 8:24 AM
- - tufy   thanks wolf. but my question was not ''why...   Mar 12, 2007 - 8:57 AM
- - tufy   here is what i am thinking to order.. as my car ha...   Mar 27, 2007 - 4:41 AM


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