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post Feb 4, 2007 - 7:19 PM
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hey i was just curious but would a lotus engine be able to fit and run in our celicas since the engine is toyota based. i know it would be super expensive, but i was just wondering when i was reading a magazine with a lotus in there that, would it be possible.
 
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post Feb 18, 2007 - 3:44 AM
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the 2zz in the Elise and Exige is the same, with just a more aggressive secondary cam shaft so the VVT-I kicks in a few hundred rpm sooner nothing crazy. But the 2zz has no low end TQ thats why u often see superchargers and not turbo charges on the 2zz, the Lotus Exige has a Supercharger on it, and is very detuned and makes about 230 hp and almost 170 foot pounds of tq. but all in all a very fun power plant 2 have in any light car.


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post Mar 24, 2007 - 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(SlickRick @ Feb 18, 2007 - 3:44 AM) [snapback]527933[/snapback]

the 2zz in the Elise and Exige is the same, with just a more aggressive secondary cam shaft so the VVT-I kicks in a few hundred rpm sooner nothing crazy.


There is no such thing as secondary camshafts in a 2ZZGE.
It has secondary cam LOBES.
Which have nothing to do with the VVTi.
The larger lobes are the L [Lift].
VVTi is adjustable valve timing and only valve timing.
The camshaft itself has nothing to do with when the timing is changed, or by how much.
The ECU determines this.

And the L has nothing to do with when it comes on either.
That is soley decided by the ECU. It has a set point programmed into it.



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post Mar 27, 2007 - 11:41 PM
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There is no such thing as secondary camshafts in a 2ZZGE.
It has secondary cam LOBES.
Which have nothing to do with the VVTi.
The larger lobes are the L [Lift].
VVTi is adjustable valve timing and only valve timing.
The camshaft itself has nothing to do with when the timing is changed, or by how much.
The ECU determines this.

And the L has nothing to do with when it comes on either.
That is soley decided by the ECU. It has a set point programmed into it.
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i meant "lobes" each of the 2 cams have secondary profiles, which in the vvt-"i" are continuously variable. all lotus does is make some changes 2 the ECU and even out the hp and tq cuves.


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- celiman5   lotus engine   Feb 4, 2007 - 7:19 PM
- - purplegt4   it's a beefed 2zz-ge. maybe search around the ...   Feb 4, 2007 - 7:34 PM
- - j0e_p3t   its the same engine as the 7gc gts. imo, too much ...   Feb 4, 2007 - 7:56 PM
- - jdg371   Lotus Elise is 190hp you could get that engine fr...   Feb 4, 2007 - 8:29 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   I think it's a good option for a swap. Very d...   Feb 4, 2007 - 9:17 PM
- - Bitter   http://videos.streetfire.net/search/coroll...86301...   Feb 4, 2007 - 9:42 PM
|- - JesterDC   The 2ZZ is an extremely peaky engine, it has NO bo...   Feb 4, 2007 - 10:14 PM
|- - Bitter   QUOTE(JesterDC @ Feb 4, 2007 - 10:14...   Feb 5, 2007 - 1:18 AM
|- - JesterDC   QUOTE(Bitter @ Feb 5, 2007 - 2:18 AM...   Feb 5, 2007 - 7:22 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(JesterDC @ Feb 6, 2007 - 12:22...   Feb 5, 2007 - 8:07 PM
- - playr158   someone needs to swap in a hyabusa engine into the...   Feb 4, 2007 - 11:36 PM
|- - BLINKYxMUNKEY   QUOTE(playr158 @ Feb 4, 2007 - 11:36...   Feb 4, 2007 - 11:45 PM
- - playr158   QUOTE(BLINKYxMUNKEY @ Feb 4, 2007 - 11...   Feb 4, 2007 - 11:55 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   So what's the problem with the motor? It...   Feb 5, 2007 - 8:05 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Feb 6, 2007 - 1...   Feb 5, 2007 - 8:11 PM
|- - JesterDC   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Feb 5, 2007 - 9:11 ...   Feb 6, 2007 - 9:39 PM
- - Bitter   when the lift point is lowered to 5700 rpm and the...   Feb 6, 2007 - 10:27 PM
- - purplegt4   that was only for the corolla xrs motor right?   Feb 8, 2007 - 2:28 AM
|- - Bitter   QUOTE(purplegt4 @ Feb 8, 2007 - 2:28...   Feb 8, 2007 - 6:16 PM
- - Negative   Yeah but there is something different about the EC...   Feb 8, 2007 - 6:28 PM
|- - Bitter   QUOTE(Negative @ Feb 8, 2007 - 6:28 ...   Feb 8, 2007 - 7:54 PM
- - Consynx   retuned 2zz to get 10more hp or w/e and raised red...   Feb 8, 2007 - 6:33 PM
|- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(Consynx @ Feb 8, 2007 - 6:33 P...   Feb 8, 2007 - 8:19 PM
|- - urbandork   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Feb 9, 2007 - 1...   Feb 9, 2007 - 2:39 AM
|- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(urbandork @ Feb 9, 2007 - 2:39...   Feb 9, 2007 - 2:57 AM
- - Consynx   iunno... i can't find a site that lists all we...   Feb 9, 2007 - 11:11 AM
|- - JesterDC   QUOTE(Consynx @ Feb 9, 2007 - 12:11 ...   Feb 10, 2007 - 4:28 PM
- - Bitter   iirc the 6th gen celica hatch and 7th gen corolla ...   Feb 10, 2007 - 4:59 PM
- - lagos   if you want a 2zz powered celica, why not just buy...   Feb 10, 2007 - 5:09 PM
|- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 10, 2007 - 5:09 PM...   Feb 10, 2007 - 5:30 PM
- - devilsden97   QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 10, 2007 - 5:09 PM...   Feb 10, 2007 - 5:15 PM
- - lagos   QUOTEOn top of that, you can still buy a wrecked c...   Feb 10, 2007 - 9:59 PM
|- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 10, 2007 - 9:59 PM...   Feb 10, 2007 - 11:56 PM
- - purplegt4   QUOTE(Bitter @ Feb 6, 2007 - 10:27 P...   Feb 11, 2007 - 12:34 AM
- - block   a 6th gen celica hatch is 2400lbs a 6th gen celica...   Feb 11, 2007 - 9:34 PM
- - SlickRick   the 2zz in the Elise and Exige is the same, with j...   Feb 18, 2007 - 3:44 AM
|- - alltracman78   QUOTE(SlickRick @ Feb 18, 2007 - 3:4...   Mar 24, 2007 - 12:22 PM
|- - SlickRick   There is no such thing as secondary camshafts in a...   Mar 27, 2007 - 11:41 PM
|- - alltracman78   QUOTE(SlickRick @ Mar 27, 2007 - 11...   Mar 28, 2007 - 2:45 PM
- - SpyderGS   Sorry to bring up an old thread from a month ago, ...   Mar 24, 2007 - 8:52 AM


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