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post Apr 15, 2007 - 6:30 PM
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I'm about to supercharge my car and know that I will be using premium grade fuel. Is there any Toyota-preferred gasoline company? I did a search and it seems Ferrari recommends Shell. I'm no Ferrari, but I usually fill up at BP (Amoco). I remember seeing a list a while back with a few gas companies that are better for Toyota engines because of something in the gas. Does anyone have that? or does anyone if there is a recommended company by Toyota?

I know this won't make a noticeable difference, but figured since gas prices are pretty mcuh the same around town I might as well fill up at the best place.

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post Apr 20, 2007 - 6:52 PM
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Petrol octane ratings and additives, This is is a hugely complicated subject.....Octain rating...this is the petrols ability to resist pre detonation, where the heat of the engine components ignites the petrol before the spark plug does. This can decrease the power of a car because if the petrol ignites before the piston reaches the top of its compression stroke, then the engine is fighting against the detonation of the petrol/increased pressures = reduced power, broken pistons etc etc, So Octain rating can/does improve power.

Petrol companies use different methods to produce the "Octaine rating" in petrol.....Shell does this in there V-Power by making a higher grade of fuel, ie there 99ron petrol is produced as 99ron petrol.

Companies like Greenergie which also makes a 99ron petrol use a different method, they get fuel from either themselves at 95ron or buy it from any other compay at 95ron and add aditives to increase the ron rating synthetically.

Obviously the Shell petrol should be better being origionally designed as a 99ron fuel, but most companies add detergents etc to the fuel to help clean the engine etc...this does nothing to improve power, but can improve overall performance by maintaining the engines internal workiing parts, keeping them cleaner etc.

If you look in Evo mag from late last year they did a fuel comparison.

BP`s 98ron Ultimate came top in both HP gains and torque gains over regular 95 ron petrol. Greenergies 99ron came second and Shells 98 ron came third so I guess its whatever petrol suits your car....Petrol isnt just petrol though there are many differences caused by production techniques, types and percentage of addatives ron ratings etc etc

Now we get 99ron shell and 102 ron BP ultimate plus both of which give a noticable increase in performance over regular 95 ron petrol.

Normal engines (non turbo) do not produce much heat so dont need the pre det resistant properties of high Octain fuel, so you wont need to run anything beyond 95ron...turbo cars should run 98 ron or higher unless mapped to run on the lower grades of petrol.

Note - Petrol in the states is produced usually at a higher grade than elsewhere, also the grade is rated in a different way...RON......PON etc

Posts in this topic
- JoKeRkId613   Toyota Gasoline?   Apr 15, 2007 - 6:30 PM
- - playr158   Shell is the best quality gasoline there is period...   Apr 15, 2007 - 6:47 PM
- - LewFX   its no longer shell, they got bought out by americ...   Apr 15, 2007 - 7:04 PM
- - Valo666   i use shell and sunoco all the time. I seriously w...   Apr 15, 2007 - 7:06 PM
- - lagos   gas is gas. brand names are just clever marketing ...   Apr 15, 2007 - 7:07 PM
- - LewFX   i use chevron, its on toyotas recommended list   Apr 15, 2007 - 7:09 PM
- - playr158   gas isn't gas....I'm accquantences with a ...   Apr 15, 2007 - 7:10 PM
- - JoKeRkId613   must be nice. lol.^ so shell it is. edit: anyone...   Apr 15, 2007 - 7:16 PM
- - lagos   its like motor oil and oil filters. youll always s...   Apr 15, 2007 - 7:22 PM
- - Valo666   My imput shouldnt count though, cuz gas here is di...   Apr 15, 2007 - 7:24 PM
- - Valo666   QUOTE(lagos @ Apr 15, 2007 - 7:22 PM...   Apr 15, 2007 - 7:27 PM
- - Bitter   top tier fuel isnt all bull. some fuels really do...   Apr 15, 2007 - 11:07 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(Valo666 @ Apr 15, 2007 - 8:27 ...   Apr 15, 2007 - 11:20 PM
- - Bitter   a little gas always mixes with your oil, but most ...   Apr 16, 2007 - 10:09 AM
- - GTS13   I try to only use Shell. Gas is not gas when place...   Apr 20, 2007 - 12:53 PM
- - Kwanza26   Hehehe... you guys sure buy into "gimmicks...   Apr 20, 2007 - 1:37 PM
|- - Negative   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Apr 20, 2007 - 6:37...   Apr 20, 2007 - 2:38 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Negative @ Apr 20, 2007 - 7:38...   Apr 20, 2007 - 4:21 PM
- - tomazws   I use Arco, subsidiary of BP... It's cheap and...   Apr 20, 2007 - 2:27 PM
- - wind   husky all the way   Apr 20, 2007 - 2:44 PM
- - Bitter   lol additives are not gimmicks at all, but buy the...   Apr 20, 2007 - 4:28 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Bitter @ Apr 20, 2007 - 9:28 P...   Apr 20, 2007 - 4:33 PM
- - GTS13   "Will you take the Red pill?.....or the Blue ...   Apr 20, 2007 - 4:38 PM
- - dagreat1   so which octain should we be using?   Apr 20, 2007 - 5:26 PM
- - Insanity-74   Petrol octane ratings and additives, This is is a ...   Apr 20, 2007 - 6:52 PM
- - Steevo   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating The...   Apr 20, 2007 - 8:28 PM
- - DSToyo   hows wawa gas stand on the list? x2 on shell is be...   Apr 20, 2007 - 8:42 PM
- - Jeremiah   Anyone have any real evidence, or is this all just...   Apr 24, 2007 - 12:05 PM
- - GTS13   True, it's not going to make you go any faster...   Apr 25, 2007 - 6:44 PM
- - NuSpec02   I filled up with gas from QT and my check engine l...   Apr 26, 2007 - 12:34 AM
- - GTS13   Yeah I noticed the same thing with my Camry. I le...   Apr 26, 2007 - 3:18 PM
- - Negative   All these people with the same experiences yet peo...   Apr 26, 2007 - 3:29 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Negative @ Apr 26, 2007 - 8:29...   Apr 26, 2007 - 3:47 PM
- - Kwanza26   *sigh* People let this sh!t die unless you ha...   Apr 26, 2007 - 3:40 PM
|- - GTS13   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Apr 26, 2007 - 3:40...   Apr 27, 2007 - 5:54 PM
- - lagos   gas is gas. the only thing i would worry about wit...   Apr 27, 2007 - 6:20 PM
- - Hanyo   I admit it. I'm a fuel sucker. I've dont...   Apr 27, 2007 - 7:30 PM
- - Sinyk   Esso Their points are exchangeable with visa poin...   Apr 27, 2007 - 8:03 PM


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