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post Apr 17, 2007 - 11:20 PM
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Lately I've been getting more and more into drag racing, horsepower, autox, drifting and upgrading cars in general. biggrin.gif And sadly, my sexy little FWD GT celi just isn't cutting it. kindasad.gif Now I'm in a decisional dilemma. For years I wanted a celica because I still think it's by far the nicest looking car of its class. When I first got my car, I had dreams of a 3s swap, and lots of exterior mods. But no matter what, racing a FWD car, no matter how much power at the crank it's got, just can't get that power to the ground well enough. I've played with the idea of an AWD conversion with the celi; I'm not at all daunted by the work, I just don't have 5 grand(+) to sink into it. For that price, I could get a 240sx shell, and drop in a RB26DETT. (that's the skyline engine for those of you that don't know) That would be an amazing car, and it would be crazy fun to drive.

Anyway, I know some of you will say stuff about how could I betray my kind. rolleyes.gif But I'm curious to hear what those of you that are really car racers and modders say? How can you put up with a celica, no matter how much power you've got under the hood? I love fantasizing about driving up to races with a kick-arse celica, half the people saying, "what's that?" and blow everyone away,(somewhat like tufy, laugh.gif ) but the money required to basically do a full gt4 conversion plus suspension upgrades and bolt-ons is just ridiculous... kindasad.gif Should I just sell the black beauty and sink my money into something that can really perform amazing for cheap? Or maybe just save up for another year (maybe more), AWD convert the celica, and get a very good(with awesome handling, and looks), but not really that amazing of a performance car? rolleyes.gif


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post Apr 24, 2007 - 2:21 PM
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You can say whatever you want about how the cars look on paper and what not, but don't call me ignorant. I've raced, and I've raced a lot. I'm newer into autox, but I've been on the drag strip and dirt track for years. A car on paper is simply that, a car on paper. Look at the Mini Cooper, it looks really bad on paper. But the thing rules. That's just how some stuff is. I understand this is the internet and personal testimonies don't mean jack crap on here, but I know what I know. Jay, you say that FWD sucks and no "dream cars" are FWD. Show me a STS capable RWD car besides the 240sx. Look at the number of race cars out there and find out exactly how many are FWD and how many are RWD. Obviously you won't see any FWD Skylines or Mustangs, but they aren't the only "race" cars out there. The SRT-4, RSX-S, Integra R, Sentra SE-R, Civic Si, and the Celica amongst others have more than proven themselves out there. Jay, you're a smart guy, I just think you’re a little off on this one. Tin_Foil, **** you, man. You're an idiot.


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- tin_foil   Need help deciding if I should sell out....   Apr 17, 2007 - 11:20 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   What kind of racing are you doing? You can't ...   Apr 17, 2007 - 11:43 PM
- - tin_foil   no, I'm nowhere near a street racer. I didn...   Apr 18, 2007 - 12:41 AM
|- - macavely   QUOTE(tin_foil @ Apr 18, 2007 - 1:41...   Apr 22, 2007 - 10:57 PM
|- - Bigmeanbulldog55   QUOTE(macavely @ Apr 22, 2007 - 11:5...   Apr 23, 2007 - 4:50 PM
|- - 96bluevert   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Apr 23, 2007 - ...   Apr 24, 2007 - 10:55 AM
- - bccentaur3   dude you ahve stated that FWD SUCKS. Do yourself a...   Apr 18, 2007 - 12:47 AM
- - j0e_p3t   how much do you really love your celi? if its wort...   Apr 18, 2007 - 12:55 AM
- - trdproven   yeah, its mostly about having the pride of your ca...   Apr 18, 2007 - 1:21 AM
- - OrbitalGT95   QUOTE(tin_foil @ Apr 18, 2007 - 4:20...   Apr 18, 2007 - 11:14 AM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   If you really think that FWD sucks, then you don...   Apr 18, 2007 - 1:41 PM
- - purplegt4   get a motorcycle.   Apr 22, 2007 - 10:09 PM
|- - Jeremiah   QUOTE(purplegt4 @ Apr 22, 2007 - 10...   Apr 23, 2007 - 1:44 PM
- - macavely   well it seams like you know what you want. If the ...   Apr 22, 2007 - 10:49 PM
- - 99GT   I've always had awd dsms for the longest time....   Apr 22, 2007 - 10:55 PM
- - jgreening   FWD sucks. Look at the sports cars that are on ...   Apr 24, 2007 - 10:40 AM
|- - macavely   QUOTE(jgreening @ Apr 24, 2007 - 11...   Apr 24, 2007 - 11:53 PM
- - OrbitalGT95   I need to stay outa this thread before i get into ...   Apr 24, 2007 - 11:13 AM
- - Ratix240sx   QUOTE(96bluevert @ Apr 24, 2007 - 10...   Apr 24, 2007 - 11:50 AM
- - tin_foil   Wow...look at the argument I started. Okay, fir...   Apr 24, 2007 - 1:44 PM
- - Bigmeanbulldog55   You can say whatever you want about how the cars l...   Apr 24, 2007 - 2:21 PM
|- - 96bluevert   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Apr 24, 2007 - ...   Apr 24, 2007 - 3:38 PM
|- - tin_foil   QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Apr 24, 2007 - ...   Apr 24, 2007 - 10:43 PM
- - defgeph   Nate, please try to relax.   Apr 24, 2007 - 11:11 PM
- - defgeph   Without a doubt, RWD comes out on top. Followed by...   Apr 24, 2007 - 11:22 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(defgeph @ Apr 24, 2007 - 11:22...   Apr 25, 2007 - 8:19 PM
|- - Jeremiah   QUOTE(jgreening @ Apr 25, 2007 - 8:1...   Apr 26, 2007 - 11:11 PM
|- - macavely   QUOTE(Jeremiah @ Apr 27, 2007 - 12:1...   Apr 27, 2007 - 12:14 AM
- - tin_foil   Thanks defgeph. This was the sort of comments I wa...   Apr 24, 2007 - 11:46 PM
- - OrbitalGT95   when it all comes down to it...a pro driver would ...   Apr 25, 2007 - 12:02 AM
- - defgeph   Thanks Tin! I have gone back and forth many ...   Apr 25, 2007 - 12:10 AM
- - mikeismad0408   hmm, lets see, you take your 240 on paper and you ...   Apr 25, 2007 - 12:56 AM
- - Jeremiah   QUOTE(tin_foil @ Apr 17, 2007 - 11:2...   Apr 25, 2007 - 7:51 PM
- - 95st-celica   i saw we make a car with power to the front right ...   Apr 25, 2007 - 8:26 PM
- - defgeph   Last dyno was at 245 whp. Its in no way to much. R...   Apr 26, 2007 - 11:40 PM
- - 97lestyousay   Traction issues = weight issues Lets go back a few...   Apr 27, 2007 - 12:20 AM
- - cjh4l22   no blame, i nearly bought a 95 240sx w/a modded ka...   Apr 27, 2007 - 12:36 AM
- - j0e_p3t   QUOTE(macavely @ Apr 26, 2007 - 10:1...   Apr 27, 2007 - 12:46 AM
- - 97lestyousay   I was somewhat vague in my previous statment. Weig...   Apr 27, 2007 - 8:11 AM
- - Jeremiah   I wonder if the heavier weight of our cars is actu...   Apr 27, 2007 - 1:59 PM
- - tomazws   The only RWD car I've driven is my old 92...   Apr 27, 2007 - 2:56 PM
- - Jeremiah   I re-read some of those articles... Looks like th...   Apr 27, 2007 - 5:04 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(defgeph @ Apr 27, 2007 - 12:40...   Apr 27, 2007 - 7:02 PM
|- - defgeph   QUOTE(lagos @ Apr 27, 2007 - 8:02 PM...   Apr 27, 2007 - 7:20 PM
- - defgeph   Two things I want to add here. My handling charac...   Apr 27, 2007 - 7:10 PM
- - lagos   post up a link to the vid! haha i guess the ...   Apr 27, 2007 - 7:37 PM
- - defgeph   QUOTE(lagos @ Apr 27, 2007 - 8:37 PM...   Apr 27, 2007 - 8:51 PM


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