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post May 3, 2004 - 11:41 AM
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I have a 7AFE and want to put in a 3SGE in it. Will i need a whole front clip to do it to avoid buying other parts? Will I need to do all new wiring for it? New ECU? Will the engine fit right in or will I have to build new support for it? I'm thinking about trashing my 7AFE turbo and putting the 3SGE in. My Engine has high miles on it and its not worth the work to rebuild. Any help would be appreciated. Wondering if I could get a list or something of stuff to to to complete the swap, I havent really seen anybody do a 3SGE before, just a 3SGTE.


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post Apr 29, 2007 - 7:29 AM
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Hello,

I am new to Celica technology. Search button in this forum gives so many replies, that i cant filter out anything useful from it, so i think it is easier to ask directly my question.
I am planning to buy a Celica 1994, which has blown 7A-FE and owner gives me additional 3S-GE with harness an 2 geaboxes from Celica 1987.
Does the swap look like this:
1. Engine harness replacement. Are ECU wires easily separated from whole electrical harness?
2. Engine mounts must be modified/bought new. Are the engine mount locations almost identical?
3. Gear shift linkage system dircet bolt on?
4. Does 7A-FE drive axles have appropriate length and number of teeth on them to fit in 3S-GE transmission?
5. Is 6. gen 7AFE fuel pump suitable for 3SGE ?



Thank You in Advance
Henrik
post Apr 29, 2007 - 8:14 AM
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QUOTE(eintsius @ Apr 29, 2007 - 5:29 AM) [snapback]552104[/snapback]

Hello,

I am new to Celica technology. Search button in this forum gives so many replies, that i cant filter out anything useful from it, so i think it is easier to ask directly my question.
I am planning to buy a Celica 1994, which has blown 7A-FE and owner gives me additional 3S-GE with harness an 2 geaboxes from Celica 1987.
Does the swap look like this:
1. Engine harness replacement. Are ECU wires easily separated from whole electrical harness?
2. Engine mounts must be modified/bought new. Are the engine mount locations almost identical?
3. Gear shift linkage system dircet bolt on?
4. Does 7A-FE drive axles have appropriate length and number of teeth on them to fit in 3S-GE transmission?
5. Is 6. gen 7AFE fuel pump suitable for 3SGE ?



Thank You in Advance
Henrik


thanks for using the search button.

1) no there is not a seperate electrical haraness for the engine. The engine haraness is integrated with the body haraness on the celica

2) No the 7AFE does not share any common engine mounts with the 3sge engine. You will need to use gt4 motor mounts or the gt motor mounts. please search for more information

3) gear shift link will vary depending on the transmission. since they made so many 1987 celica models that range from the 1987 gts gt4 st. I cant give you an answer.

4) no the 7afe transmission axels will not work.

5) 7afe fuel pump might* work. the general rule of thumb is: If your going to change the motor, you might as well change out the tire old fuel pump. If and since your going from a 1.8 liter engine to a 2.0 liter engine, the fuel pump might fail during the upper rpms.

Posts in this topic
- ArizonaRed   7AFE to 3SGE   May 3, 2004 - 11:41 AM
- - ghostdog   yes, a front clip is your best bet, you will want ...   May 3, 2004 - 11:51 AM
- - Digndoug   hey, Im planning on doing the same thing this summ...   May 3, 2004 - 12:51 PM
- - subsolo_21   QUOTE I'm thinking about trashing my 7AFE turb...   May 3, 2004 - 1:29 PM
- - PhillyGuy086   what do u mean beams isn't worth it? i am look...   Jul 18, 2004 - 11:16 PM
- - ST-204   Acutally, 3S-GTE is really a good engine, but u gu...   Jul 19, 2004 - 1:48 AM
- - Yota   what are theses 'beams' you speak of...   Jul 19, 2004 - 2:02 AM
- - Digndoug   The beams engine would be a 97or98 plus.. It produ...   Jul 19, 2004 - 11:42 AM
- - Supersprynt   Beams has VVTI...mmm.   Jul 19, 2004 - 12:02 PM
- - PhillyGuy086   has anyone turbo'd a beams 3s-ge, i found on a...   Jul 19, 2004 - 2:19 PM
- - Digndoug   QUOTE (PhillyGuy086 @ Jul 19, 2004 - 7:19 PM) has ...   Jul 19, 2004 - 7:04 PM
- - Doge   Turbo'ing a vvti engine is horrible compared t...   Jul 19, 2004 - 9:34 PM
- - PhillyGuy086   why would turboing a vvti be bad? one of my friend...   Jul 19, 2004 - 9:47 PM
- - Drocay   the turbo wont be happy on the vvti and on the 7th...   Jul 19, 2004 - 11:20 PM
- - Doge   Yeah the 2zz has an 11.5:1 CR...thats insanely hig...   Jul 19, 2004 - 11:39 PM
- - eintsius   Hello, I am new to Celica technology. Search but...   Apr 29, 2007 - 7:29 AM
|- - Hanyo   QUOTE(eintsius @ Apr 29, 2007 - 5:29...   Apr 29, 2007 - 8:14 AM
- - 4wheelWOnder   before we say that a vvt-i 3sgte is a bad idea, ca...   Apr 29, 2007 - 8:27 AM
- - Culpable04   is the 3SGE from 1987 as well ?   Apr 29, 2007 - 8:48 AM
|- - eintsius   QUOTE(Culpable04 @ Apr 29, 2007 - 1...   Apr 29, 2007 - 10:55 AM
- - Culpable04   QUOTE(eintsius @ Apr 29, 2007 - 10:5...   Apr 29, 2007 - 12:12 PM
- - eintsius   That is also one option, which im considering. I´m...   Apr 29, 2007 - 3:40 PM
- - Celicaguy13   Does anyone have a link to a place that sells 3rd ...   May 6, 2007 - 3:12 AM
- - 3WayStunna   best bet is jarcoinc.com if they dont have one th...   May 6, 2007 - 4:22 AM


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