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post Apr 28, 2007 - 4:29 PM
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I've had a problem with my car for the past month, and nothing we have had done seems to work.

The problem:
- Very low, and rough idle.
- Stalling.
- The engine cuts out no matter if I am stopped at a redlight, or if I am accelerating.

It can be fine one day, but terrible the next. If it cuts off, I can wait a few minutes and it comes back on. If I let it sit for 30+ minutes, it will work for the rest of the day and possibly the next. When it cuts off it's very random, and it forces me to not go to work, or I am late to work. I'm about to lose my job.

Things I have had done:
- I've had the injectors cleaned or something.
- New fuel pump.
- Replaced PVC Valve.
- Replaced IAC Valve.

Things it's not:
- The battery, or connections.
- The alternator, or connections.

Now they're telling me the distributer. Any other ideas? Discuss.

I totally put this in the wrong section, could one of the mods please move it? frown.gif

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post May 5, 2007 - 2:35 PM
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It could be the coil.
Which is in your dist.
I don't know if it's available separately or not.

QUOTE(lagos @ Apr 29, 2007 - 10:13 AM) [snapback]552128[/snapback]

vac leak. start the engine a look for loose or cracked hoses. you should head a hissing from where the problem is.


NO, NO, NO, NO, NO

I don't know how many times I've posted this on different forums.
For some reason 3SGTE folks have this misconception that since it works this way on their engine it will work this way on all engines.
Engines control systems are NOT THE SAME on all engines.
A pressure based system [MAP sensored] WILL NOT, NEVER, WON'T, CAN'T die if it has a vaccum leak. The idle will RAISE. The ONLY time it will die is if the actual vaccum hose to the MAP sensor is disconnected [that DOESN'T mean a crack in the hose, ONLY completely disconnected].
Only on flow based systems [MAF/AFM] will the engine run worse/die if it has a vaccum leak.


QUOTE(lagos @ Apr 29, 2007 - 6:28 PM) [snapback]552238[/snapback]

sadly, most mechanics arent too smart when it comes to simple stuff like that. pop your hood and take a look around.


hm........


QUOTE(bindertch @ Apr 29, 2007 - 6:59 PM) [snapback]552249[/snapback]

Are you getting any check engine codes? My sources tell me to check the EGR to make sure it isn't stuck open. Also if it is a loose connection you could try to wiggle the wiring harness around the components while the engine is running. The main sensors that I would check would be your crank position and cam position ( cam position is inside the distrubutor requiring the full replacement). A way to free up a stuck egr valve is to lightly tap on it and see if it clears up the rough running condition. If the egr is stuck open it will cause almost all of your symtoms.


Just for reference, the 95 older don't have a crank sensor, only a cam sensor.
96^ has the crank sensor.

Jen, for reference, or if this isn't fixed, there is a more sensitive diagnostic mode you can put the ECU into.

Jump TE2 [NOT TE1, TE2] and E1 [you have to do this with the key OUT of the ignition, if it's in, it won't work].
Drive the car around until you have the problem.
Jump TE1 and E1 to read the code.
I don't know if it will pick up a bad coil or not, but it will pick up loose connections and such.

What was the code[s] that you got?


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- Jen   Engine Keeps Cutting Off   Apr 28, 2007 - 4:29 PM
- - Jen   Another theory: Something is in the gas tank.   Apr 28, 2007 - 4:45 PM
- - mikeismad0408   something could be in the gas tank...sorry im illi...   Apr 28, 2007 - 4:53 PM
- - Jen   QUOTE(mikeismad0408 @ Apr 28, 2007 - 5...   Apr 28, 2007 - 4:55 PM
- - Jen   BUMP. Please help.   Apr 28, 2007 - 6:19 PM
- - playr158   hrm small things i might replace would be things l...   Apr 28, 2007 - 9:04 PM
|- - Jen   QUOTE(playr158 @ Apr 28, 2007 - 10:0...   Apr 28, 2007 - 9:19 PM
- - Bitter   sounds like one of the most dreaded problems ever....   Apr 28, 2007 - 10:08 PM
- - Hanyo   does your car idle real bad? Like the steering whe...   Apr 28, 2007 - 10:16 PM
- - Jen   QUOTE(Bitter @ Apr 28, 2007 - 11:08 ...   Apr 28, 2007 - 11:11 PM
- - Remy   I know you have a new fuel pump but what about the...   Apr 28, 2007 - 11:28 PM
|- - Jen   QUOTE(Remy @ Apr 29, 2007 - 12:28 AM...   Apr 28, 2007 - 11:33 PM
- - stephen_lee   check all of your vacuum hoses. ESPECIALLY the hos...   Apr 29, 2007 - 2:23 AM
- - My2Celi   I'm thinking like what he said. Could be your ...   Apr 29, 2007 - 2:58 AM
- - lagos   vac leak. start the engine a look for loose or cr...   Apr 29, 2007 - 10:13 AM
- - Jen   If it was a vac leak, wouldn't the mechanic kn...   Apr 29, 2007 - 6:05 PM
- - lagos   sadly, most mechanics arent too smart when it come...   Apr 29, 2007 - 6:28 PM
- - bindertch   Are you getting any check engine codes? My sources...   Apr 29, 2007 - 6:59 PM
- - Hanyo   this is a strange problem because: 1) the engine s...   Apr 29, 2007 - 9:28 PM
- - bindertch   The MAP sensor will make it run rough but it would...   Apr 29, 2007 - 10:39 PM
- - Jen   yes, engine codes. all of them said the distributo...   Apr 30, 2007 - 10:00 AM
- - lagos   if thats what th codes say, then thats what it is....   Apr 30, 2007 - 10:49 AM
- - ecaddiction   Maybe take it to a different shop? Which shop in J...   Apr 30, 2007 - 1:51 PM
- - Jen   QUOTE(lagos @ Apr 30, 2007 - 11:49 A...   Apr 30, 2007 - 6:23 PM
- - hurley97   have they checked the timing? I'm not sure ho...   Apr 30, 2007 - 7:50 PM
- - Jeremiah   I'm not sure how you all handle your mechanics...   May 1, 2007 - 6:29 PM
- - DrAg1n320   Hey, hopefully i'm not to late, if your vehicl...   May 3, 2007 - 10:45 PM
- - alltracman78   It could be the coil. Which is in your dist. I don...   May 5, 2007 - 2:35 PM
- - Bitter   funny thing is...even if you pull the hose from th...   May 5, 2007 - 3:11 PM
- - alltracman78   It might run sometimes, but normally the engine wi...   May 5, 2007 - 4:24 PM
- - Jen   not working still. i told you that the engine code...   May 9, 2007 - 11:01 PM
|- - supradog1   QUOTE(Jen @ May 10, 2007 - 12:01 AM)...   May 9, 2007 - 11:47 PM
- - lagos   wait... you took the car to goodyear? a place that...   May 9, 2007 - 11:25 PM
- - Jen   okay, no longer at goodyear. took it to the dealer...   May 10, 2007 - 12:02 AM
- - lagos   well, we are trying to help but your not giving us...   May 10, 2007 - 12:09 AM
- - Jen   1) Fuel injectors 2) Fuel pump 3) PVC valve 4) IAC...   May 10, 2007 - 12:13 AM
- - Delta_Phoenix   Seeing that you've had most of the diagnostic ...   May 10, 2007 - 7:18 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE(Jen @ May 10, 2007 - 1:13 AM) ...   May 10, 2007 - 8:45 AM
- - WALKER   This may sound dumb, but has all this been on the ...   May 10, 2007 - 9:14 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE(WALKER @ May 10, 2007 - 10:14 ...   May 10, 2007 - 9:23 AM
- - Jen   All of that has been replaced. QUOTEDoes the car ...   May 11, 2007 - 12:07 PM
- - Jen   bump.   May 11, 2007 - 11:38 PM
- - Kwanza26   Sounds like a fuel problem... or lack thereof. Di...   May 11, 2007 - 11:56 PM
- - stephen_lee   on my car actually something similar happened. it...   May 12, 2007 - 1:13 AM
- - Jen   the distributor was replaced please read the whol...   May 12, 2007 - 1:21 AM
- - lagos   are you SURE they replaced the fuel pump? you have...   May 12, 2007 - 9:13 AM
- - Jen   QUOTE(lagos @ May 12, 2007 - 10:13 A...   May 12, 2007 - 9:09 PM
- - supradog1   were is the car now??? what dealer ship did you ta...   May 13, 2007 - 11:52 AM
- - alltracman78   QUOTE(Jen @ May 9, 2007 - 11:01 PM) ...   May 13, 2007 - 12:57 PM
- - Jen   They are now saying it's the PCM? What do ya...   May 14, 2007 - 7:34 PM
- - Bitter   it could be an issue where the main wiring harness...   May 14, 2007 - 10:22 PM
- - alltracman78   QUOTE(alltracman78 @ May 13, 2007 - 12...   May 15, 2007 - 2:02 PM
- - Jen   If it's my ECU, they are crediting my account ...   May 18, 2007 - 10:39 PM
- - lagos   well at least they are willing to keep hacking awa...   May 18, 2007 - 10:58 PM
- - Jen   Okay, update. It's finally fixed.. at least.. ...   May 22, 2007 - 7:13 AM


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