which spark plugs work for your 3sgte? Options

[toyotacrazy]

Im about to do a tune up and Ive read some forum discussion about "ngk copper" plugs. Are these the best to use to help reduce chance of knock? If so where do you get them? Thanks

[alltracman78]

Maybe in America all dealerships are full of ace mechanics, but unfortunately ask 90% of GT4 owners if they would take there car to a Toyota dealer in the UK, and the answer would be "No" I have seeen more bodge jobs and dodgy repairs by so called Toyota mechanics than you would believe.

I wasn't trying to say dealerships are full of good techs.
There are ALOT of crappy ones. We have several where I work.
There are two main points to what I said.

1-Almost ANY shop you go to will have some good and some bad techs. and plenty of mediocre ones. How many of each depends on a lot of things.
When you go to a shop, you can get one or the other.

2-Just because you took your car to a dealership and had a bad experience in NO way means all dealers are bad. Period, end of story.
Dealers aren't even owned by the car company. 99% of them are independent owners.
So it's even more different than if it was a chain of shops.
And while there are certain things that are supposed to be the same, in reality they are very different from each other. Alot of what drives folks away from the dealer is price, and they're not set up for modded cars.

Out of that 90% you mentioned, how many have modded GT4s?
A dealer is NOT set up to work on aftermarket stuff. The techs aren't trained for it, nor do they have the references for it.
An oil change is one thing, but if you have a piggy back system, and the car is running bad, how do you expect the tech to work on it when he knows nothing about it? The first thing he's going to tell you is to remove it, and go from there.
YOU [general case, not specific] are the stupid one for expecting him to know this.

In addition to this, the majority of techs are good, but not experts. They can handle most normal stuff, but don't have the training/knowhow/intelligence to deal with the really complicated problems. Things that don't come along every day.
How does this make them stupid?
How many of you are average in what you do?
How many can honestly say they are experts in their fields?
Does this make you a dumba$$ too?
Or just a regular Joe?

That's what makes a Master Tech.
Someone a bit smarter, more knowledgeable and experienced that the normal tech.

too much text. . .so i didn't read, but i have to do this

where's the dead horse?

cuz it just got BEAT!

Naw man, it's not dead yet, I saw it twitch.
It needs a few more blows.