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post Aug 10, 2003 - 3:00 PM
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What is better? Auto or Manual..of course Manual is the best!

I got an automatic because the auto had lower miles..I want to get a new Celica to just make it manual but the miles are high and the price is overpriced. My girlfriend said if I am going to buy a car why buy another Celica...

Is there any way that I can turn my auto to manual? Instead of buying a new car? Anyone in Southern California that could do it?
 
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post Aug 27, 2003 - 1:16 PM
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QUOTE (BlackSTX @ Aug 27, 2003 - 6:56 AM)
I'm sorry, I've got to call B.S. on that. There's no way your Celica ST beat a Camaro SS, Corvette, Viper, turbo Trans Am, etc. You've got to remember that this is a celica site and hello, I own an auto ST. I love my car, but it would get SMOKED by those cars in ANY type of race. If this event actually happened the way you say it did, then the people driving those cars are such pitiful drivers that they shouldn't be allowed on the road, and everyone should fear for their lives. Put the same driver in any of those cars and then in a Celica ST and the Celica ST would not even compete. An auto ST doesn't even want to touch 100 mph, I know, I had to push mine to do it. Hell, 40-60 in our cars is like 3 seconds. Those other cars are 150mph monsters. I can't even fathom an ST competing with them. In Gran Turismo racing, those cars would be like A-B class, ours would be like G class. Those are 300-400 hp cars! Putting lighter weight stuff on your car isn't even going to make up that much difference in power/weight. I'm sorry but that story is unbelievable.

actually, my auto 97 ST hits 105 at redline in 3rd gear

and the car still slowly pulls, ok, very slowly.

In terms of the 105-110hp the ST has, the 5spd does make a difference. It has shorter gears and is more efficient. Now with z28’s, the autos are actually faster, and the longer gears combined with the constant throttle of an Auto is good for a turbo car. But with NA power, the shorter gears of a 5spd make a noticeable difference. The OD button does make a slight difference, but it does disable 4th gear when turned off. It wont make an ST faster than a trans am, let alone a turbo trans am. The only hope of keeping up is being an excellent driver on a very twisty course.

And when I was at LACR, I made runs with OD on and off and it did not make a difference.

I was messing around with a 03 G35 coupe on a mountain road and several times I would leave him about a mile behind. When I pulled over to a side of the road with a viewpoint, the guy pulled over and asked how much power my car had. He felt bad that his 280hp car had trouble keeping up with my 105hp car. Put me in the driver’s seat of the G35 and I can kick the **** out of any NA 6th gen. Celica. That guy just didn’t know the limits of his car yet.

I never ever say that my car is fast. When people ask me about it, I say its pretty good for 105hp, which is the truth, my dad’s civic dx has more HP and it’s a whole lot slower than my car.

Btw there is no chance in hell that a Viper, a 6spd 400+hp extreme handling, high quality machine will ever lose to an auto ST in anything other than a MPG race. Let alone an American muscle car with a V8.

Neither Auto nor manual is better globally. It is up to personal preference. I like auto for daily driving, nothing beats the fun of driving a manual.

Put my car next to another 97 st with a 5spd and I will get owned, given that the driver knows the car.


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- tranxendz   Auto Vs Manual   Aug 10, 2003 - 3:00 PM
- - Mynzeyes   yes you can. there have been a few that have done ...   Aug 10, 2003 - 3:06 PM
- - aEr   Is there somebody on this site that has done this ...   Aug 10, 2003 - 3:41 PM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (aEr @ Aug 10, 2003 - 1:41 PM) Is there some...   Aug 10, 2003 - 4:44 PM
- - ScoobyDooCruiser   The work almost ain't worth it. I had a friend...   Aug 10, 2003 - 4:55 PM
- - Mynzeyes   QUOTE (aEr @ Aug 10, 2003 - 2:41 PM) Is there some...   Aug 10, 2003 - 5:07 PM
- - tranxendz   Has anyone tried it? I am willing to try it or pa...   Aug 11, 2003 - 3:08 AM
- - orvillescelica   I just did the swap this summer. Yes, it would hav...   Aug 11, 2003 - 4:48 AM
- - tranxendz   Orvillez Celica...whoa man you're descriptive ...   Aug 14, 2003 - 2:57 AM
- - ghostdog   just an idea, but you might want to save up and do...   Aug 14, 2003 - 2:13 PM
- - LigerZero   I don't really understand why you want to get ...   Aug 17, 2003 - 11:04 PM
- - YellowTwo   what is a dual mode automatic?? ive never even hea...   Aug 18, 2003 - 1:57 AM
- - Matthew   i would suppose that he is trying to talk fancy ab...   Aug 18, 2003 - 3:21 AM
- - Sh0gunkid8721   QUOTE (LigerZero @ Aug 17, 2003 - 9:04 PM) I don...   Aug 18, 2003 - 10:24 AM
- - Celicav   QUOTE (Sh0gunkid8721 @ Aug 18, 2003 - 8:24 AM) QUO...   Aug 18, 2003 - 7:22 PM
- - YellowTwo   i always have overdrive off because it responds qu...   Aug 25, 2003 - 12:38 AM
- - Pvc99gT   its not bad to have overdrive on or off. overdrive...   Aug 25, 2003 - 4:52 PM
- - SuperMica   QUOTE (GT2GT4 @ Aug 18, 2003 - 8:21 AM) i would su...   Aug 25, 2003 - 5:23 PM
- - SuperMica   QUOTE (Celicav @ Aug 19, 2003 - 12:22 AM) QUOTE (S...   Aug 25, 2003 - 5:29 PM
- - kamax   you should be more specific then. when people thi...   Aug 25, 2003 - 7:37 PM
- - PlanetFuzz   Goodness...I think all the auto drivers should jus...   Aug 25, 2003 - 7:41 PM
- - BlackSTX   Wasn't there just another 3 page thread on thi...   Aug 26, 2003 - 8:20 AM
- - SuperMica   QUOTE (PlanetFuzz @ August 26, 2003 - 12:41 A...   Aug 26, 2003 - 9:31 PM
- - BlackSTX   I'm sorry, I've got to call B.S. on that. ...   Aug 27, 2003 - 8:56 AM
- - Toyota_guy31783   i call bs also....And why do you keep brining your...   Aug 27, 2003 - 10:37 AM
- - PlanetFuzz   QUOTE (Toyota_guy31783 @ Aug 27, 2003 - 8:37 AM) i...   Aug 27, 2003 - 12:10 PM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (BlackSTX @ Aug 27, 2003 - 6:56 AM) I'm ...   Aug 27, 2003 - 1:16 PM
- - liquor   Stop it... the 94-99 celica is an underpowered spo...   Aug 27, 2003 - 9:32 PM
- - SuperMica   STOP>>>>>>>>>>>...   Aug 27, 2003 - 10:22 PM
- - SuperMica   And oh yah... The reason I brought a celica st was...   Aug 27, 2003 - 10:24 PM
- - Toyota_guy31783   ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...   Aug 28, 2003 - 4:13 AM
- - BlackSTX   She's right, I did buy my car because I'm ...   Aug 28, 2003 - 8:54 AM
- - PlanetFuzz   [FONT=Impact]Oh no!! I hope baby girl and ...   Aug 28, 2003 - 12:07 PM


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