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post Jun 6, 2007 - 12:16 PM
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I want to do a 3s-gte swap , i dont have much experience but i am a fast learner ... reearch is really helpful but i still need some questions answered ... also i am not swaping my engine any time soon , i just want to know if i can do it or not so i can try and plan for something else !! me and my friends will do it , they ahe tools , but they work with hondas frown.gif
here is what i still havent figured out :

1- my car is auto and will be swaped to manual , with or before the 3s comes in .... the axles go from the auto to manual tranny and will bolt right on ( or locks in) ...correct ??? also i want the easiest setup to do so i will be using the regular tranny of the Gt , i know some ppl are using it with no trouble whats the code for that thing , i am still confused on it , its s54 ( correct me if i am wrong) and it will bolt right on the 3s-gte with a difference in the flywheel or disc( not a problem now ).... of course i need to buy the correct driver's side engine mount for the Vert with manual trans

2- this is my only car , should is still do it ? how fast can it be done knowing that the wirring will have to be sent away ? if wirring problem is done , can it be done in like a weekend or week ? i use my car alot biggrin.gif

3- if is use a St205 front clip , will my a/c work without modifcation to the wirring ? what if i use a st-185 , will the wirring be set when i have it done by pros ?? this concerns me because the how-to for a/c have no pics and i dont understand whats going on ! and i live in So-Cal where it reasches 100+ in the summer !! rolleyes.gif

4- i also need some tips on forming a list for the parts i need ( beside the clip / tranny ) and where to get them : exhaust ?? fuel pump ? other stuff

5- i have to make it street legal , so how do i getall the emission control systems working to meet california laws ? is it possible ?

6- Wires scare the crap out of me ! so is it possible for the person who will do the wirring harness conversion also prep the wirring for the auto-> manual swap ? is that possible

i am a beginner with this stuff , i am just a college student studying biology ! so i have very weak background and i really hope that the 6gc ppl would help make this swap a reality ! so ai need all the help i can get and there is no better place than here ! so thanks everybody , i will add questions on here and when i do the swap i will put pics and stuff !!

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post Jun 6, 2007 - 6:54 PM
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1 auto axles should work. i have auto axles from a 94GT in a 96 s54. for the clutch setup, you need 3sgte flywheel and pressure plate and a GT clutch, or a hybrid clutch kit made by spec or clutchmasters. if you go the hybrid route id recommend getting an OEM throw out bearing, seems alot beefier. you shouldent need a driver side mount, the one that came with my clip worked fine. i ended up buying an s54 mount only to find out that the A/T, M/T, and st205 mounts all bolt up.

2 It probably not a good idea to swap if you dont have alternate transportation. anything could delay the swap, like waiting for parts, or if you have any post swap problems.

If you get an st205 only about 9-10 wires need to be spliced in, that is, if you cut a hole in the firewall to run the harness. if you have SRS you will need to run an additional wire from the cabin to the engine room fuse block. if you dont cut a hole in the firewall, more complicated wiring is involed and it should probably be sent out.

3 my a/c worked with no problems post swap. no wiring changes were necessary. keep in mind i have a 94, would be best to check the wiring diagrams to be sure for your car.

4 for an st205. custom exhaust 2.5in or 3in depending on HP goals, walbro fuel pump, all fluids, any seals/gaskets you need if you want to do a reseal. water and oil pumps if you want (i didnt). fuel, oil, air filters. plan on new FR & RR motor mounts if the clip and yours are crappy. manual swap parts, tranny, shift cables, master/slave cylinders, clutch lines and hose, clutch pedal and brake pedal, shift boot and bezel, shifter (if not with clip), shift knob. boost guage would be nice. plugs, cap, rotor, wires (OEM). all i can think of atm.

5 you cant reasonably make it street legal, no EGR, bottom line.

6 if you do the swap, there is no need to wire anything for the conversion since the ECU you get will be for a M/T

This post has been edited by cheeco: Jun 6, 2007 - 6:56 PM

Posts in this topic
- NaderG   3s-gte swap questions   Jun 6, 2007 - 12:16 PM
- - cheeco   1 auto axles should work. i have auto axles from a...   Jun 6, 2007 - 6:54 PM
- - NaderG   QUOTE(cheeco @ Jun 6, 2007 - 11:54 P...   Jun 6, 2007 - 8:19 PM
|- - Gary   QUOTE(NaderG @ Jun 6, 2007 - 9:19 PM...   Jun 6, 2007 - 9:32 PM
|- - NaderG   QUOTE(Gary @ Jun 7, 2007 - 2:32 AM) ...   Jun 6, 2007 - 10:20 PM
|- - phattyduck   QUOTE(NaderG @ Jun 6, 2007 - 8:20 PM...   Jun 6, 2007 - 10:55 PM
- - NaderG   oh ... thas great ! why didnt this show up in ...   Jun 6, 2007 - 11:50 PM
|- - phattyduck   QUOTE(NaderG @ Jun 6, 2007 - 9:50 PM...   Jun 7, 2007 - 1:26 AM
- - 6strngs   The engine has to be the same year or newer in ord...   Jun 7, 2007 - 12:11 AM
- - NaderG   ya , thas easy , my problem is my parents ... and ...   Jun 7, 2007 - 1:13 AM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE(NaderG @ Jun 6, 2007 - 11:13 P...   Jun 7, 2007 - 1:36 AM
- - NaderG   well i guess that does make sense ... well i guess...   Jun 7, 2007 - 1:29 AM
- - NaderG   well , that is an option but the 5sfe is crappy al...   Jun 7, 2007 - 1:44 AM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE(NaderG @ Jun 6, 2007 - 11:44 P...   Jun 7, 2007 - 2:16 AM
- - NaderG   i guess i will just look into it then ... tell me ...   Jun 7, 2007 - 3:04 AM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE(NaderG @ Jun 7, 2007 - 1:04 AM...   Jun 7, 2007 - 3:39 AM
- - NaderG   well , if it is illegal bothways , i will just go ...   Jun 7, 2007 - 11:50 AM
- - Supersprynt   Cops generally won't ask you to pop your hood ...   Jun 7, 2007 - 12:14 PM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Jun 7, 2007 - 10...   Jun 7, 2007 - 1:31 PM
- - MaskedMan   Yeah cops here will generally ask you to pop your ...   Jun 7, 2007 - 3:36 PM
|- - NaderG   QUOTE(MaskedMan @ Jun 7, 2007 - 8:36...   Jun 7, 2007 - 4:28 PM
- - eggman40   legality didnt stop me! But yea man its a ri...   Jun 7, 2007 - 9:49 PM
- - KaJuN   pardon my ignorance, as i'm not from the state...   Jun 8, 2007 - 9:56 AM
- - Culpable04   QUOTE(KaJuN @ Jun 8, 2007 - 9:56 AM)...   Jun 8, 2007 - 10:04 AM
- - NaderG   it seems like it will never be legal ... i guess i...   Jun 8, 2007 - 1:15 PM
- - Supersprynt   Doggy makes gauge pods that fit over the center co...   Jun 8, 2007 - 2:28 PM
- - NaderG   the cops can still see them , i am thinking of sma...   Jun 8, 2007 - 4:12 PM
- - NaderG   one final question before i just give up the whole...   Jun 10, 2007 - 7:05 PM
- - phattyduck   QUOTE(NaderG @ Jun 10, 2007 - 5:05 P...   Jun 11, 2007 - 3:05 AM


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