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post Jun 9, 2007 - 3:24 PM
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Hello everybody. like it says... this is the story of my Celica's transformation. This will be an on going thread so if it needs to be moved go ahead, thanks. I'll post pics when I get a chance. Great things are on the horizon.


The goal... to have the meanest street driven Celica in the world.

Details will be added soon.


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post Jun 12, 2007 - 1:14 AM
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"HAHA! way in the weeds wrong... that's a funny saying. So you do know lextreme then. Did you read the 1u/3u comparison? Justengt8 over there has 650hp on stock internals with a setup similar to what I want."



I know what you want......... I'm 'EVIL' too when it comes to STREET DOMINATION !!!!

... And Justengt8 is FULL OF SH!T.......... period.


Yes, I've read and re-read again Lextreme.com, David's site, inside and out........over and over again -
AND ALL of Modular Ford .com AND Corral - as I want a DOHC engine.


OK - now here we go:


1 UZ FE :

Early version, with the SMALL BORE 85mm pistons, suitable for a LAWNMOWER, carries CAST CONNECTING
RODS - bigger than the later 1 UZ FE CAST CONNECTING RODS - but cast none the less - and will fail
after repeated 7+K RPM shifts.......650HP ?? OK - but not for LONG!! They talk SMACK over there - sell a Fantasy of dropping in a 1 UZ and adding a Turbo to it for 650HP - it is a GRENADE my friend........ believe me - I've built - I know.

Put BOOST on this to reach 650HP and you have a 'Light Switch' engine - with choked breathing without the Turbo on - so it is a SLUG off the line until 3K+RPM - then it is all TURBO / Intercooler / Methanol Injection until you lift - then back to a SLUG........ no drivability ..........

Realize - your TURBo won't HIT until you have exhaust velocity - RPM - > you'll be depending on the engines
Natural characteristics - which for a 1 UZ FE is CHOKED TO THE MAX lump.

You'll need an ARP stud kit for EVERYTHING to keep it together.

You'll have SMALLER VALVES -

Poorly designed intake plenum - choked.

Poorly designed intake tract - choked.

Poorly designed intake ports - choked.

Still have to replace the rods and pistons -


wtf...... AVOID all this and get a 3 UZ FE -

spring for the Pistons and Rods / Arp kit and you're done !

[ I'd use Vance & Hines racing motorcycle springs / keepers / locks on
some light weight Ferra Valves - AND - some cams for the application,
but Hey.......that's just ME wink.gif ]

The 3 UZ FE is the Final Design of the 4.0 that was 'gleened' from TRD TOYOTA RACING
and you want to start with the First Year of Manufacture with ALL of the shortcomings to
save $2 grand ?? It'll take 6 to correct !!


A POrt job on a 1 UZ will set you down - 2K+$$ thousand dollars - and that is NOT
a Extrude Hone ......... that is PRIOR to the Extrude Hone..... which comes AFTER !


There is only ONE post on Lextreme - that tells you Exactly what I am telling you -
that the 1 UZ is a core only engine with lots of problems and VERY expensive to bring
up to a 3 UZ standard -


Where's the 'Dilly !Yo' ?



Honeslty.............. buy your $400.00 1 Uz - hang some Turbos on it and a FORD TB and
FORD Powerstroke Intercooler > we're talking CHEAP right now......... use the Methanol / water injection kit
and run the engine for a year - .......... it WILL grenade and you'll lose the entire engine - go buy another $400.00 engine and start again..........

it will STILL be a DOG at anytime off boost - which is most of the time thumbsup.gif




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Posts in this topic
- coldbluesteel   The long awaited transformation   Jun 9, 2007 - 3:24 PM
- - Celicav   Good luck, b/c I am sure you will need to spend we...   Jun 9, 2007 - 3:47 PM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(Celicav @ Jun 9, 2007 - 4:47 P...   Jun 9, 2007 - 3:53 PM
- - m0dd3d1   So, do you have any pics? I checked your profile ...   Jun 9, 2007 - 3:57 PM
- - coldbluesteel   Yes,I have pics. I just noticed none of my old pic...   Jun 9, 2007 - 4:01 PM
- - manphibian   Pretty bold statement to be so thin on details.   Jun 9, 2007 - 4:01 PM
|- - DSToyo   QUOTE(manphibian @ Jun 9, 2007 - 5:0...   Jun 9, 2007 - 4:05 PM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(manphibian @ Jun 9, 2007 - 5:0...   Jun 9, 2007 - 4:09 PM
|- - m0dd3d1   QUOTE(coldbluesteel @ Jun 9, 2007 - 4...   Jun 9, 2007 - 4:09 PM
|- - manphibian   QUOTE(coldbluesteel @ Jun 9, 2007 - 4...   Jun 9, 2007 - 4:10 PM
- - KB-2   you still dont have any pics.   Jun 9, 2007 - 6:48 PM
- - massbrandon   Guys give him time. He said he would post pics and...   Jun 9, 2007 - 8:38 PM
- - Rockford   good luck on you project and get some pics soon   Jun 9, 2007 - 9:14 PM
- - OOBE   *Gets popcorn*   Jun 9, 2007 - 9:40 PM
- - coldbluesteel   Ok I got photobucket to work again. This is the ...   Jun 9, 2007 - 10:20 PM
- - Shocker   SMILES ACROSS MY FACE   Jun 9, 2007 - 10:24 PM
- - laff09   Two words. DAMN RIGHT!   Jun 9, 2007 - 10:25 PM
- - Shocker   taht doesnt even look like a car on the inside.im ...   Jun 9, 2007 - 10:27 PM
- - tonytutino   good god that'll be amazing dude lol, i know ...   Jun 9, 2007 - 10:34 PM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(tonytutino @ Jun 9, 2007 - 11...   Jun 9, 2007 - 10:40 PM
- - OOBE   *Broken English speaking asian* I confused. That...   Jun 9, 2007 - 10:38 PM
- - coldbluesteel   I would love to get one of these dropped off at my...   Jun 9, 2007 - 11:01 PM
- - laff09   mm, thats beefy   Jun 9, 2007 - 11:14 PM
- - m0dd3d1   So...what exactly are you doing with your engine?...   Jun 10, 2007 - 6:00 AM
- - coldbluesteel   I want to do the turbo 1uzfe, but the shop doing t...   Jun 10, 2007 - 12:44 PM
- - manphibian   Awesomeness! but man i hope you scooped up al...   Jun 10, 2007 - 1:00 PM
- - coldbluesteel   Sure did, well most of them. Yeah I'm not e...   Jun 10, 2007 - 1:06 PM
- - massbrandon   thanks for posting the pics man. You've got so...   Jun 10, 2007 - 3:12 PM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(massbrandon @ Jun 10, 2007 - 4...   Jun 10, 2007 - 3:18 PM
- - milnersXcoupe   -Wikipedia quote- The 1GR-FE is the 4.0L version....   Jun 10, 2007 - 3:38 PM
- - coldbluesteel   Much better support, and potential for these... ...   Jun 10, 2007 - 4:13 PM
- - dustin15brown   to make ur goals..... 10k wont be close   Jun 10, 2007 - 11:07 PM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(dustin15brown @ Jun 11, 2007 - 12...   Jun 10, 2007 - 11:09 PM
- - OOBE   People that make over 700 WHP usually spend at lea...   Jun 11, 2007 - 12:04 AM
- - C3L1CA   With a ton of power it will be a challenge to actu...   Jun 11, 2007 - 2:24 AM
|- - coldbluesteel   http://www.atsracing.net/550whpbuildup.htm A nice ...   Jun 11, 2007 - 1:30 PM
- - celicaST   do the 1uz! if you want to keep save money and...   Jun 11, 2007 - 3:30 AM
- - coldbluesteel   Most definitely doing RWD conversion. It would be ...   Jun 11, 2007 - 1:25 PM
- - root   Off the engine convo, but still on this thread.......   Jun 11, 2007 - 6:12 PM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(root @ Jun 11, 2007 - 7:12 PM)...   Jun 11, 2007 - 6:21 PM
- - milnersXcoupe   I know what you want - I'm going thru the sa...   Jun 11, 2007 - 11:31 PM
- - Akimbo   What's with all the V8 talk? Are you seriously...   Jun 11, 2007 - 11:42 PM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(Akimbo @ Jun 12, 2007 - 12:42 ...   Jun 11, 2007 - 11:52 PM
|- - Akimbo   QUOTE(coldbluesteel @ Jun 12, 2007 - 12...   Jun 12, 2007 - 12:03 AM
- - milnersXcoupe   http://tinyurl.com/3cfoj9 My "Sweet Drea...   Jun 11, 2007 - 11:42 PM
- - dustin15brown   QUOTE(coldbluesteel @ Jun 11, 2007 - 12...   Jun 11, 2007 - 11:49 PM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(dustin15brown @ Jun 12, 2007 - 12...   Jun 12, 2007 - 12:10 AM
- - milnersXcoupe   My "Sweet Dreams" Part 3: "Pro...   Jun 11, 2007 - 11:50 PM
- - devilsden97   dude, what part of the Hudson Valley are u from?...   Jun 12, 2007 - 12:05 AM
- - milnersXcoupe   IF you are serious about a 3 UZ FE V8 conversion: ...   Jun 12, 2007 - 12:09 AM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(milnersXcoupe @ Jun 12, 2007 - 1...   Jun 12, 2007 - 12:16 AM
- - dustin15brown   you know exactly what i mean. Swapping a 3s is sti...   Jun 12, 2007 - 12:15 AM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(dustin15brown @ Jun 12, 2007 - 1...   Jun 12, 2007 - 12:22 AM
- - milnersXcoupe   No Problem Cold - but: nO, the 1 - 3 UZ FE is 20...   Jun 12, 2007 - 12:16 AM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(milnersXcoupe @ Jun 12, 2007 - 1...   Jun 12, 2007 - 12:28 AM
- - milnersXcoupe   "I want to do a stand alone from the start wi...   Jun 12, 2007 - 12:33 AM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(milnersXcoupe @ Jun 12, 2007 - 1...   Jun 12, 2007 - 12:39 AM
- - milnersXcoupe   "HAHA! way in the weeds wrong... that...   Jun 12, 2007 - 1:14 AM
- - coldbluesteel   Ok I did some more reading. milnersXcoupe- I do s...   Jun 12, 2007 - 1:20 AM
- - coldbluesteel   Sorry officer I must have left my Dilly Yo in my o...   Jun 12, 2007 - 1:25 AM
- - milnersXcoupe   "Sorry officer I must have left my Dilly Yo i...   Jun 12, 2007 - 1:48 AM
- - coldbluesteel   Ok so this brings me back full circle! At the...   Jun 12, 2007 - 2:01 AM
- - milnersXcoupe   QUOTEI just read your take on that, def agree with...   Jun 12, 2007 - 2:14 AM
- - milnersXcoupe   http://ls1howto.com/ http://www.installuniversity...   Jun 12, 2007 - 2:21 AM
- - milnersXcoupe   Where are you buying an LS1 and Six Speed for ...   Jun 12, 2007 - 2:25 AM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(milnersXcoupe @ Jun 12, 2007 - 3...   Jun 12, 2007 - 2:29 AM
- - coldbluesteel   LS1 is alloy and the FE's aren't true duel...   Jun 12, 2007 - 2:33 AM
- - milnersXcoupe   Yeah - the GTO came originally with a 4 spd. My ...   Jun 12, 2007 - 3:05 AM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(milnersXcoupe @ Jun 12, 2007 - 4...   Jun 12, 2007 - 3:10 AM
- - GTS13   Personally I'd rather see you keep it all Toyo...   Jun 12, 2007 - 1:15 PM
- - DSRT-FX   oh man all i can say is good luck! here in au...   Jun 12, 2007 - 1:17 PM
- - DSToyo   that crx looks awfully similar to a del sol   Jun 12, 2007 - 1:22 PM
- - Kadett   Its called a CRX Del Sol here   Jun 12, 2007 - 2:51 PM
|- - DSToyo   QUOTE(Kadett @ Jun 12, 2007 - 3:51 P...   Jun 12, 2007 - 4:33 PM
- - Sinyk   He's avoided the question about what he does f...   Jun 12, 2007 - 4:13 PM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(Sinyk @ Jun 12, 2007 - 5:13 PM...   Jun 12, 2007 - 4:37 PM
- - milnersXcoupe   Sounds to me as if this is an LS1 project - so let...   Jun 12, 2007 - 9:10 PM
- - Dragondog   where did you guys go what the car at now?   Jul 30, 2007 - 8:16 AM
- - celicaGT96   something seems fishy..   Jul 30, 2007 - 9:12 AM
- - coldbluesteel   I just moved to Raleigh so the car is in storage a...   Jul 30, 2007 - 9:21 AM
- - m0dd3d1   The Del Sol is called the "CRX del Sol" ...   Jul 30, 2007 - 10:07 AM
- - celicaGT96   QUOTE(coldbluesteel @ Jul 30, 2007 - 9...   Jul 30, 2007 - 5:26 PM
- - coldbluesteel   Please check FS thread. PS... This was a hard cho...   Aug 29, 2007 - 2:12 PM


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