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post Jun 9, 2007 - 3:24 PM
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Hello everybody. like it says... this is the story of my Celica's transformation. This will be an on going thread so if it needs to be moved go ahead, thanks. I'll post pics when I get a chance. Great things are on the horizon.


The goal... to have the meanest street driven Celica in the world.

Details will be added soon.


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post Jun 12, 2007 - 1:48 AM
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"Sorry officer I must have left my Dilly Yo in my other pants at home."


-snip-



That's OK - I'll take cash,.... how much you got in that wallet ? wink.gif




"But really though I do see your point on the 3u."


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It's the ONly way to go for a Lex V8 - the 1 UZ is a money pit with little to offer
other than cheap initial availability - after that ....... WoW is it Expensive to
get 'right' - and a major let down without.




Ok I did some more reading.


milnersXcoupe- I do see that the 1g is a nice motor.

The 3u does have some pros too, but it get its extra power from the VVTI.
It seems like I t would be easier to build up with out VVTI, or am I wrong?


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Well, yes. The VVTi changes the intake track runner lengths to optimize the air flow for a given RPM -
which helps HP / Torque as well as mileage and emissions.

MOST of the increase comes from the HUGELY upgraded Intake Plenum / Intake Runner / Intake Port / Larger Valve / Combustion Chamber reDesign / Piston Crown design / Piston Bore Increase > 85mm to 91.5mm !!


I can understand people building 1u's if they have 1 stock but there are lots of people dropping them in other cars too.


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Yes, agreed.

But why ? Cheap availability, WoW factor to look at initially - BUT - every single 1 UZ user complains bitterly about the Intake / Bore / lack of Torque unless the engine is Turbo'd - and then they hit the problem of the Entire Intake Tract being 'choked' - so they port the Plenum - swap it out for a later version - port the runners - port the heads - bigger valves - then after thousands of dollars and tons of time - realize they should have used a 2 UZ top end as it breathes much better in STOCK form than does any Hyper Ported 1 UZ top end ?

Ain't done yet! Then it's Cams - and the motor is STILL not as drivable as a 3 UZ would be just off boost -
you want an engine that is GREAT off boost - then a 'FREAK' ON boost........ THAT is where it's AT !


The GR engine is the Wave of Toyotas Racing future - as the cylinders are COMPLETELY surrounded by coolant - so Turbo and Supercharging will NOT bring on all the headaches of hot spots that the FORD Cobra camp are experiencing:



http://tinyurl.com/ythzdk



That engine weighs 384 lbs. - it LEAVES the line Flying!

The V8 guys are there waiting for the motor to make power and lifting
150 more pounds coming from nothing to RPM - Lite Weight = Torque !


Read those Racing Posts above - they went from a MAXIMUM EFFORT
Turbo 'Blown' 4.7 with GS400 heads etc. - set new Track Records -
then went to a TOYOTA V-6 adding Turbo - and went FASTER !!


Even the 5.7 - which is *Sweet* for a Normally Aspirated engine -
is NOT suited for Supercharging / Turbo , as it has Siamese'd cylinder
liners > Hot Spots <, and Alloy Melts around 1100 degrees > Turbo engine
combustion chambers see 1250 + ........ so tell me what comes next ?

Cylinder bore distortion and broken piston ring lands......... no thanks. rolleyes.gif

This post has been edited by milnersXcoupe: Jun 12, 2007 - 1:59 AM


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- coldbluesteel   The long awaited transformation   Jun 9, 2007 - 3:24 PM
- - Celicav   Good luck, b/c I am sure you will need to spend we...   Jun 9, 2007 - 3:47 PM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(Celicav @ Jun 9, 2007 - 4:47 P...   Jun 9, 2007 - 3:53 PM
- - m0dd3d1   So, do you have any pics? I checked your profile ...   Jun 9, 2007 - 3:57 PM
- - coldbluesteel   Yes,I have pics. I just noticed none of my old pic...   Jun 9, 2007 - 4:01 PM
- - manphibian   Pretty bold statement to be so thin on details.   Jun 9, 2007 - 4:01 PM
|- - DSToyo   QUOTE(manphibian @ Jun 9, 2007 - 5:0...   Jun 9, 2007 - 4:05 PM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(manphibian @ Jun 9, 2007 - 5:0...   Jun 9, 2007 - 4:09 PM
|- - m0dd3d1   QUOTE(coldbluesteel @ Jun 9, 2007 - 4...   Jun 9, 2007 - 4:09 PM
|- - manphibian   QUOTE(coldbluesteel @ Jun 9, 2007 - 4...   Jun 9, 2007 - 4:10 PM
- - KB-2   you still dont have any pics.   Jun 9, 2007 - 6:48 PM
- - massbrandon   Guys give him time. He said he would post pics and...   Jun 9, 2007 - 8:38 PM
- - Rockford   good luck on you project and get some pics soon   Jun 9, 2007 - 9:14 PM
- - OOBE   *Gets popcorn*   Jun 9, 2007 - 9:40 PM
- - coldbluesteel   Ok I got photobucket to work again. This is the ...   Jun 9, 2007 - 10:20 PM
- - Shocker   SMILES ACROSS MY FACE   Jun 9, 2007 - 10:24 PM
- - laff09   Two words. DAMN RIGHT!   Jun 9, 2007 - 10:25 PM
- - Shocker   taht doesnt even look like a car on the inside.im ...   Jun 9, 2007 - 10:27 PM
- - tonytutino   good god that'll be amazing dude lol, i know ...   Jun 9, 2007 - 10:34 PM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(tonytutino @ Jun 9, 2007 - 11...   Jun 9, 2007 - 10:40 PM
- - OOBE   *Broken English speaking asian* I confused. That...   Jun 9, 2007 - 10:38 PM
- - coldbluesteel   I would love to get one of these dropped off at my...   Jun 9, 2007 - 11:01 PM
- - laff09   mm, thats beefy   Jun 9, 2007 - 11:14 PM
- - m0dd3d1   So...what exactly are you doing with your engine?...   Jun 10, 2007 - 6:00 AM
- - coldbluesteel   I want to do the turbo 1uzfe, but the shop doing t...   Jun 10, 2007 - 12:44 PM
- - manphibian   Awesomeness! but man i hope you scooped up al...   Jun 10, 2007 - 1:00 PM
- - coldbluesteel   Sure did, well most of them. Yeah I'm not e...   Jun 10, 2007 - 1:06 PM
- - massbrandon   thanks for posting the pics man. You've got so...   Jun 10, 2007 - 3:12 PM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(massbrandon @ Jun 10, 2007 - 4...   Jun 10, 2007 - 3:18 PM
- - milnersXcoupe   -Wikipedia quote- The 1GR-FE is the 4.0L version....   Jun 10, 2007 - 3:38 PM
- - coldbluesteel   Much better support, and potential for these... ...   Jun 10, 2007 - 4:13 PM
- - dustin15brown   to make ur goals..... 10k wont be close   Jun 10, 2007 - 11:07 PM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(dustin15brown @ Jun 11, 2007 - 12...   Jun 10, 2007 - 11:09 PM
- - OOBE   People that make over 700 WHP usually spend at lea...   Jun 11, 2007 - 12:04 AM
- - C3L1CA   With a ton of power it will be a challenge to actu...   Jun 11, 2007 - 2:24 AM
|- - coldbluesteel   http://www.atsracing.net/550whpbuildup.htm A nice ...   Jun 11, 2007 - 1:30 PM
- - celicaST   do the 1uz! if you want to keep save money and...   Jun 11, 2007 - 3:30 AM
- - coldbluesteel   Most definitely doing RWD conversion. It would be ...   Jun 11, 2007 - 1:25 PM
- - root   Off the engine convo, but still on this thread.......   Jun 11, 2007 - 6:12 PM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(root @ Jun 11, 2007 - 7:12 PM)...   Jun 11, 2007 - 6:21 PM
- - milnersXcoupe   I know what you want - I'm going thru the sa...   Jun 11, 2007 - 11:31 PM
- - Akimbo   What's with all the V8 talk? Are you seriously...   Jun 11, 2007 - 11:42 PM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(Akimbo @ Jun 12, 2007 - 12:42 ...   Jun 11, 2007 - 11:52 PM
|- - Akimbo   QUOTE(coldbluesteel @ Jun 12, 2007 - 12...   Jun 12, 2007 - 12:03 AM
- - milnersXcoupe   http://tinyurl.com/3cfoj9 My "Sweet Drea...   Jun 11, 2007 - 11:42 PM
- - dustin15brown   QUOTE(coldbluesteel @ Jun 11, 2007 - 12...   Jun 11, 2007 - 11:49 PM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(dustin15brown @ Jun 12, 2007 - 12...   Jun 12, 2007 - 12:10 AM
- - milnersXcoupe   My "Sweet Dreams" Part 3: "Pro...   Jun 11, 2007 - 11:50 PM
- - devilsden97   dude, what part of the Hudson Valley are u from?...   Jun 12, 2007 - 12:05 AM
- - milnersXcoupe   IF you are serious about a 3 UZ FE V8 conversion: ...   Jun 12, 2007 - 12:09 AM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(milnersXcoupe @ Jun 12, 2007 - 1...   Jun 12, 2007 - 12:16 AM
- - dustin15brown   you know exactly what i mean. Swapping a 3s is sti...   Jun 12, 2007 - 12:15 AM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(dustin15brown @ Jun 12, 2007 - 1...   Jun 12, 2007 - 12:22 AM
- - milnersXcoupe   No Problem Cold - but: nO, the 1 - 3 UZ FE is 20...   Jun 12, 2007 - 12:16 AM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(milnersXcoupe @ Jun 12, 2007 - 1...   Jun 12, 2007 - 12:28 AM
- - milnersXcoupe   "I want to do a stand alone from the start wi...   Jun 12, 2007 - 12:33 AM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(milnersXcoupe @ Jun 12, 2007 - 1...   Jun 12, 2007 - 12:39 AM
- - milnersXcoupe   "HAHA! way in the weeds wrong... that...   Jun 12, 2007 - 1:14 AM
- - coldbluesteel   Ok I did some more reading. milnersXcoupe- I do s...   Jun 12, 2007 - 1:20 AM
- - coldbluesteel   Sorry officer I must have left my Dilly Yo in my o...   Jun 12, 2007 - 1:25 AM
- - milnersXcoupe   "Sorry officer I must have left my Dilly Yo i...   Jun 12, 2007 - 1:48 AM
- - coldbluesteel   Ok so this brings me back full circle! At the...   Jun 12, 2007 - 2:01 AM
- - milnersXcoupe   QUOTEI just read your take on that, def agree with...   Jun 12, 2007 - 2:14 AM
- - milnersXcoupe   http://ls1howto.com/ http://www.installuniversity...   Jun 12, 2007 - 2:21 AM
- - milnersXcoupe   Where are you buying an LS1 and Six Speed for ...   Jun 12, 2007 - 2:25 AM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(milnersXcoupe @ Jun 12, 2007 - 3...   Jun 12, 2007 - 2:29 AM
- - coldbluesteel   LS1 is alloy and the FE's aren't true duel...   Jun 12, 2007 - 2:33 AM
- - milnersXcoupe   Yeah - the GTO came originally with a 4 spd. My ...   Jun 12, 2007 - 3:05 AM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(milnersXcoupe @ Jun 12, 2007 - 4...   Jun 12, 2007 - 3:10 AM
- - GTS13   Personally I'd rather see you keep it all Toyo...   Jun 12, 2007 - 1:15 PM
- - DSRT-FX   oh man all i can say is good luck! here in au...   Jun 12, 2007 - 1:17 PM
- - DSToyo   that crx looks awfully similar to a del sol   Jun 12, 2007 - 1:22 PM
- - Kadett   Its called a CRX Del Sol here   Jun 12, 2007 - 2:51 PM
|- - DSToyo   QUOTE(Kadett @ Jun 12, 2007 - 3:51 P...   Jun 12, 2007 - 4:33 PM
- - Sinyk   He's avoided the question about what he does f...   Jun 12, 2007 - 4:13 PM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(Sinyk @ Jun 12, 2007 - 5:13 PM...   Jun 12, 2007 - 4:37 PM
- - milnersXcoupe   Sounds to me as if this is an LS1 project - so let...   Jun 12, 2007 - 9:10 PM
- - Dragondog   where did you guys go what the car at now?   Jul 30, 2007 - 8:16 AM
- - celicaGT96   something seems fishy..   Jul 30, 2007 - 9:12 AM
- - coldbluesteel   I just moved to Raleigh so the car is in storage a...   Jul 30, 2007 - 9:21 AM
- - m0dd3d1   The Del Sol is called the "CRX del Sol" ...   Jul 30, 2007 - 10:07 AM
- - celicaGT96   QUOTE(coldbluesteel @ Jul 30, 2007 - 9...   Jul 30, 2007 - 5:26 PM
- - coldbluesteel   Please check FS thread. PS... This was a hard cho...   Aug 29, 2007 - 2:12 PM


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