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post Jun 9, 2007 - 3:24 PM
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Hello everybody. like it says... this is the story of my Celica's transformation. This will be an on going thread so if it needs to be moved go ahead, thanks. I'll post pics when I get a chance. Great things are on the horizon.


The goal... to have the meanest street driven Celica in the world.

Details will be added soon.


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post Jun 12, 2007 - 9:10 PM
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Sounds to me as if this is an LS1 project - so let us proceed from that assumption :

If it is a 'crate' engine - I would, before install have the reciprocating parts -
include p plate / clutch / lightened flywheel / crank / rods / pistons complete with rings / harmonic balancer / crank pully sent out to be Lightened and Balanced .

I've read enough on these to know they are 'raw' when crated - and need some 'dialing in'.

Last thing you want is a mildly unbalanced / mildly heavy reciprocating arrangement - and engines sing
sweetly once gone thru.

The new 6 spd. automatic that GM is using is the same sourced by Maserati / Jag / Rolls / BMW etc. -
I realize you'll Opt for a 6 spd. stick - as I said, I'd rather an Automatic as it will shift way faster than you could ever hope to - that said, :

Check This Out:

GM has recently launched its new 6-speed automatics (6L45, 6L50, 6L80, 6L90)

ZF Presents the First 6-speed Automatic Transmission
Text and Photos by Neil McGarry

The Car Transmission Division of ZF has released information about the first 6-speed automatic transmission. The 6 HP 26 is rated for torque capacity up to 444 lb./ft. It is smaller and lighter than it's 5-speed automatic predecessor (the 5 HP 24) which is currently fitted to the S4 and A6 2.7T. This transmission is the cornerstone of a new range which will replace today's 5-speed generation and will be manufactured at ZF Getriebe GmbH, Saarbrücken. ZF has been producing 5-speed transmissions since 1990. Presently they make up 80 percent of ZF's automatic transmission production for passenger cars.

With its new and innovative automatic transmission generation, ZF has obtained the best ratings in all major evaluation criteria of transmissions:

# Higher Torque capacity
# Reduced length
# Reduced weight
# Less fuel consumption
# Better acceleration

The sixth gear

In the 90s a major design goal of vehicle and engine developers was to further reduce fuel consumption.

ZF is now counting on an extra sixth gear. Using the Lepelletier gear set concept, ZF has succeeded in making this 6th gear come true with less technical complexity than used in previous 5-speed automatic transmissions. The transmission has improved efficiency and ratio spread, along with an improved power/weight ratio.

Looking inside the new six-speed transmissions, you will find space-saving planet gear sets for combined action during shifts via a highly efficient control logic of the shift elements. The new concept allows a reduced weight of the transmission by about 13% and a substantial raise in torque capacity.

Torque converter with novel actuation

In automatic transmissions the torque converter is mainly used to move off the line. Part of the new electronic control system for the transmission is the Stand-by Control /SBC. Instead of having the converter running against the engine with the vehicle standing still (foot on the brake pedal), as was previously the case, the converter is now disconnected from the powertrain so that there is only minimal residual load. This further reduces fuel consumption.

Low fuel use and sporty acceleration

The ratio spread of the new six-speed has been designed in such a manner that in the "long" range, there is an extra gear which lowers internal speeds and simultaneously reduces noise and fuel consumption.

ZF has designed the smallest gear in such a way that it is even more powerful and permits better acceleration parameters than the previous five-speed transmissions.

The Mechatronic module

The transmission is controlled by a mechatronics module, a hydraulic shift unit combined with an integrated electronics module. Both electronic and hydraulic systems are found in the transmission housing and they are specifically geared to each other. In this way, signals and pressures can be realized with the lowest-possible tolerances and gearshifts can be performed even more precisely. This means optimized shift quality and better drive comfort. Use of the mechatronic module not only markedly simplifies logistics and assembly, it provides a number of other benefits. These include weight reductions, as well as raised reliability resulting from a reduction in the number of plugged contacts and fewer interfaces.

Transmission control

The electronic transmission control system is based on the newly developed Adaptive ShIft Strategy /ASIS.

The electronic system is constantly fed with data on the condition of the transmission, operating condition, operator behavior and operator requests. Comprehensive evaluation of these sensor signals permits complex functional structures of the control system. As a result it can react to spontaneous driver action or sudden topographical changes and immediately transmit the optimized shifting points to the attached hydraulic shift unit. In this process, the control system covers innumerable variations of driving style, from very sporty to very economical, derived from the incoming signals.

Practically unnoticed by the driver, the electronic system also adjusts its drive strategies to special conditions, such a city traffic and different load conditions.

Model range

ZF is planning to offer a 6-speed range for various drive solutions with torque ranges from 222 to 555 lb./ft.

Unlike the predecessor, the 6 HP 26 boasts an expanded ratio spread of 6.04. On top of that, the transmission is 50mm shorter and about 13% lighter than the 5 HP 24. Its acceleration values were increased by 1-5% and fuel consumption was lowered by 5-7%. The 6 HP 26 transmits a maximum input torque of 444 lb./ft.

6-speed Tiptronics

Although neither ZF or Audi would confirm the new 6-speed transmission in a specific model range, the new transmission will replace the current 5 HP 24 on the assembly line at ZF sometime in 2001.


2008 Cadillac CTS - CarSpace Automotive Forums

the GM sourced unit in the BMW 3The 335i now uses a ZF unit:ZF 6 HP 19 TU, 6-speed-



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- coldbluesteel   The long awaited transformation   Jun 9, 2007 - 3:24 PM
- - Celicav   Good luck, b/c I am sure you will need to spend we...   Jun 9, 2007 - 3:47 PM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(Celicav @ Jun 9, 2007 - 4:47 P...   Jun 9, 2007 - 3:53 PM
- - m0dd3d1   So, do you have any pics? I checked your profile ...   Jun 9, 2007 - 3:57 PM
- - coldbluesteel   Yes,I have pics. I just noticed none of my old pic...   Jun 9, 2007 - 4:01 PM
- - manphibian   Pretty bold statement to be so thin on details.   Jun 9, 2007 - 4:01 PM
|- - DSToyo   QUOTE(manphibian @ Jun 9, 2007 - 5:0...   Jun 9, 2007 - 4:05 PM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(manphibian @ Jun 9, 2007 - 5:0...   Jun 9, 2007 - 4:09 PM
|- - m0dd3d1   QUOTE(coldbluesteel @ Jun 9, 2007 - 4...   Jun 9, 2007 - 4:09 PM
|- - manphibian   QUOTE(coldbluesteel @ Jun 9, 2007 - 4...   Jun 9, 2007 - 4:10 PM
- - KB-2   you still dont have any pics.   Jun 9, 2007 - 6:48 PM
- - massbrandon   Guys give him time. He said he would post pics and...   Jun 9, 2007 - 8:38 PM
- - Rockford   good luck on you project and get some pics soon   Jun 9, 2007 - 9:14 PM
- - OOBE   *Gets popcorn*   Jun 9, 2007 - 9:40 PM
- - coldbluesteel   Ok I got photobucket to work again. This is the ...   Jun 9, 2007 - 10:20 PM
- - Shocker   SMILES ACROSS MY FACE   Jun 9, 2007 - 10:24 PM
- - laff09   Two words. DAMN RIGHT!   Jun 9, 2007 - 10:25 PM
- - Shocker   taht doesnt even look like a car on the inside.im ...   Jun 9, 2007 - 10:27 PM
- - tonytutino   good god that'll be amazing dude lol, i know ...   Jun 9, 2007 - 10:34 PM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(tonytutino @ Jun 9, 2007 - 11...   Jun 9, 2007 - 10:40 PM
- - OOBE   *Broken English speaking asian* I confused. That...   Jun 9, 2007 - 10:38 PM
- - coldbluesteel   I would love to get one of these dropped off at my...   Jun 9, 2007 - 11:01 PM
- - laff09   mm, thats beefy   Jun 9, 2007 - 11:14 PM
- - m0dd3d1   So...what exactly are you doing with your engine?...   Jun 10, 2007 - 6:00 AM
- - coldbluesteel   I want to do the turbo 1uzfe, but the shop doing t...   Jun 10, 2007 - 12:44 PM
- - manphibian   Awesomeness! but man i hope you scooped up al...   Jun 10, 2007 - 1:00 PM
- - coldbluesteel   Sure did, well most of them. Yeah I'm not e...   Jun 10, 2007 - 1:06 PM
- - massbrandon   thanks for posting the pics man. You've got so...   Jun 10, 2007 - 3:12 PM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(massbrandon @ Jun 10, 2007 - 4...   Jun 10, 2007 - 3:18 PM
- - milnersXcoupe   -Wikipedia quote- The 1GR-FE is the 4.0L version....   Jun 10, 2007 - 3:38 PM
- - coldbluesteel   Much better support, and potential for these... ...   Jun 10, 2007 - 4:13 PM
- - dustin15brown   to make ur goals..... 10k wont be close   Jun 10, 2007 - 11:07 PM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(dustin15brown @ Jun 11, 2007 - 12...   Jun 10, 2007 - 11:09 PM
- - OOBE   People that make over 700 WHP usually spend at lea...   Jun 11, 2007 - 12:04 AM
- - C3L1CA   With a ton of power it will be a challenge to actu...   Jun 11, 2007 - 2:24 AM
|- - coldbluesteel   http://www.atsracing.net/550whpbuildup.htm A nice ...   Jun 11, 2007 - 1:30 PM
- - celicaST   do the 1uz! if you want to keep save money and...   Jun 11, 2007 - 3:30 AM
- - coldbluesteel   Most definitely doing RWD conversion. It would be ...   Jun 11, 2007 - 1:25 PM
- - root   Off the engine convo, but still on this thread.......   Jun 11, 2007 - 6:12 PM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(root @ Jun 11, 2007 - 7:12 PM)...   Jun 11, 2007 - 6:21 PM
- - milnersXcoupe   I know what you want - I'm going thru the sa...   Jun 11, 2007 - 11:31 PM
- - Akimbo   What's with all the V8 talk? Are you seriously...   Jun 11, 2007 - 11:42 PM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(Akimbo @ Jun 12, 2007 - 12:42 ...   Jun 11, 2007 - 11:52 PM
|- - Akimbo   QUOTE(coldbluesteel @ Jun 12, 2007 - 12...   Jun 12, 2007 - 12:03 AM
- - milnersXcoupe   http://tinyurl.com/3cfoj9 My "Sweet Drea...   Jun 11, 2007 - 11:42 PM
- - dustin15brown   QUOTE(coldbluesteel @ Jun 11, 2007 - 12...   Jun 11, 2007 - 11:49 PM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(dustin15brown @ Jun 12, 2007 - 12...   Jun 12, 2007 - 12:10 AM
- - milnersXcoupe   My "Sweet Dreams" Part 3: "Pro...   Jun 11, 2007 - 11:50 PM
- - devilsden97   dude, what part of the Hudson Valley are u from?...   Jun 12, 2007 - 12:05 AM
- - milnersXcoupe   IF you are serious about a 3 UZ FE V8 conversion: ...   Jun 12, 2007 - 12:09 AM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(milnersXcoupe @ Jun 12, 2007 - 1...   Jun 12, 2007 - 12:16 AM
- - dustin15brown   you know exactly what i mean. Swapping a 3s is sti...   Jun 12, 2007 - 12:15 AM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(dustin15brown @ Jun 12, 2007 - 1...   Jun 12, 2007 - 12:22 AM
- - milnersXcoupe   No Problem Cold - but: nO, the 1 - 3 UZ FE is 20...   Jun 12, 2007 - 12:16 AM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(milnersXcoupe @ Jun 12, 2007 - 1...   Jun 12, 2007 - 12:28 AM
- - milnersXcoupe   "I want to do a stand alone from the start wi...   Jun 12, 2007 - 12:33 AM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(milnersXcoupe @ Jun 12, 2007 - 1...   Jun 12, 2007 - 12:39 AM
- - milnersXcoupe   "HAHA! way in the weeds wrong... that...   Jun 12, 2007 - 1:14 AM
- - coldbluesteel   Ok I did some more reading. milnersXcoupe- I do s...   Jun 12, 2007 - 1:20 AM
- - coldbluesteel   Sorry officer I must have left my Dilly Yo in my o...   Jun 12, 2007 - 1:25 AM
- - milnersXcoupe   "Sorry officer I must have left my Dilly Yo i...   Jun 12, 2007 - 1:48 AM
- - coldbluesteel   Ok so this brings me back full circle! At the...   Jun 12, 2007 - 2:01 AM
- - milnersXcoupe   QUOTEI just read your take on that, def agree with...   Jun 12, 2007 - 2:14 AM
- - milnersXcoupe   http://ls1howto.com/ http://www.installuniversity...   Jun 12, 2007 - 2:21 AM
- - milnersXcoupe   Where are you buying an LS1 and Six Speed for ...   Jun 12, 2007 - 2:25 AM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(milnersXcoupe @ Jun 12, 2007 - 3...   Jun 12, 2007 - 2:29 AM
- - coldbluesteel   LS1 is alloy and the FE's aren't true duel...   Jun 12, 2007 - 2:33 AM
- - milnersXcoupe   Yeah - the GTO came originally with a 4 spd. My ...   Jun 12, 2007 - 3:05 AM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(milnersXcoupe @ Jun 12, 2007 - 4...   Jun 12, 2007 - 3:10 AM
- - GTS13   Personally I'd rather see you keep it all Toyo...   Jun 12, 2007 - 1:15 PM
- - DSRT-FX   oh man all i can say is good luck! here in au...   Jun 12, 2007 - 1:17 PM
- - DSToyo   that crx looks awfully similar to a del sol   Jun 12, 2007 - 1:22 PM
- - Kadett   Its called a CRX Del Sol here   Jun 12, 2007 - 2:51 PM
|- - DSToyo   QUOTE(Kadett @ Jun 12, 2007 - 3:51 P...   Jun 12, 2007 - 4:33 PM
- - Sinyk   He's avoided the question about what he does f...   Jun 12, 2007 - 4:13 PM
|- - coldbluesteel   QUOTE(Sinyk @ Jun 12, 2007 - 5:13 PM...   Jun 12, 2007 - 4:37 PM
- - milnersXcoupe   Sounds to me as if this is an LS1 project - so let...   Jun 12, 2007 - 9:10 PM
- - Dragondog   where did you guys go what the car at now?   Jul 30, 2007 - 8:16 AM
- - celicaGT96   something seems fishy..   Jul 30, 2007 - 9:12 AM
- - coldbluesteel   I just moved to Raleigh so the car is in storage a...   Jul 30, 2007 - 9:21 AM
- - m0dd3d1   The Del Sol is called the "CRX del Sol" ...   Jul 30, 2007 - 10:07 AM
- - celicaGT96   QUOTE(coldbluesteel @ Jul 30, 2007 - 9...   Jul 30, 2007 - 5:26 PM
- - coldbluesteel   Please check FS thread. PS... This was a hard cho...   Aug 29, 2007 - 2:12 PM


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