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post Jul 15, 2007 - 9:31 PM
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I was driving home one day in my belove celica....a question popped up in my head "what makes a second, a second"??...i know there are atomic clocks that miss a second in like 1 million year but how did we even measure a second in the first place...?

Now, a day consists of 24 hours and 1hr=3600 seconds. But we could have had 12 hours in a day and keep the same duration of a second so the number of seconds would still be 3600..it just takes twice as long to move a second to a second...so how and what instument were used to measure a second??

Imagine a second's duration were 10 times faster than today than one would says "yez..my celica can do 0-60mph in abt 60 seconds.." LOL ...yep thats a minute. laugh.gif


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post Jul 16, 2007 - 12:55 AM
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1 second can be calculated by the total movement of the earth. 1 full 360* rotation is 1 day ( 24 hrs ) hrs are made by minutes and minutes by seconds.

the movement of the earth is constant and that's the guide we have to check our timing, so a second is just a small movement of earth smile.gif I have on my notes somewhere what's the distance ( or degree ) earth turn on each second. if you really wanna know about it let me know and I'll post the full formula and such. be ready for calculus and some great geometry


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post Jul 16, 2007 - 2:56 AM
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QUOTE(Culpable04 @ Jul 16, 2007 - 6:55 AM) [snapback]578991[/snapback]

1 second can be calculated by the total movement of the earth. 1 full 360* rotation is 1 day ( 24 hrs ) hrs are made by minutes and minutes by seconds.


Of course, historically you are correct (this is known as the ephemeris second - ephemeris meaning that which can be calculated using celestial or astronomic data). However, lubu is on the right track with atomic clocks. We (the human race, the scientific community) have changed our definition of a second a few times over the years. The last time was in 1997.

A second is currently defined as:

The duration of 9,192,631,770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the caesium-133 atom. This definition refers to a caesium atom at rest at a temperature of 0 K (absolute zero). The ground state is defined at zero magnetic field. The second thus defined is equivalent to the ephemeris second.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_clock
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephemeris
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second


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Posts in this topic
- lubu   have you ever wonder "what makes a second...a second?"   Jul 15, 2007 - 9:31 PM
- - zachattack15   Stop thinking.   Jul 15, 2007 - 10:40 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   its just a term for measuring how much time has pa...   Jul 15, 2007 - 10:49 PM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   I'm going to play a game and guess why this th...   Jul 15, 2007 - 11:11 PM
- - Culpable04   1 second can be calculated by the total movement o...   Jul 16, 2007 - 12:55 AM
|- - BloodyStupidDavey   QUOTE(Culpable04 @ Jul 16, 2007 - 6...   Jul 16, 2007 - 2:56 AM
- - phonex98   what culpable said. Goes like this We know one da...   Jul 16, 2007 - 1:04 AM
- - shin   i swear man... topics here just gets weirder and w...   Jul 16, 2007 - 10:45 AM
- - tomazws   Are we gonna go into why "second" is CAL...   Jul 16, 2007 - 11:54 AM
|- - BloodyStupidDavey   QUOTE(tomazws @ Jul 16, 2007 - 5:54 ...   Jul 16, 2007 - 4:31 PM
|- - tomazws   QUOTE(BloodyStupidDavey @ Jul 16, 2007 ...   Jul 16, 2007 - 4:42 PM
- - phonex98   sure ! Why not. This from wikipedia: Twelve ...   Jul 16, 2007 - 12:03 PM
- - playr158   measurements of cesium FTW go take a college leve...   Jul 16, 2007 - 12:34 PM
- - lubu   QUOTEg go take a college level physics 2 class and...   Jul 16, 2007 - 1:27 PM
- - carb0n_f1b3r   I would suggest sticking to a nominal unit of time...   Jul 16, 2007 - 3:12 PM
- - playr158   QUOTE(lubu @ Jul 16, 2007 - 2:27 PM)...   Jul 16, 2007 - 3:39 PM
- - Culpable04   QUOTE(carb0n_f1b3r @ Jul 16, 2007 - 3...   Jul 16, 2007 - 4:30 PM
- - lubu   QUOTE(playr158 @ Jul 17, 2007 - 4:39...   Jul 16, 2007 - 11:21 PM
- - RbrtNdrws   Why aren't they called "firsts" ? E...   Jul 17, 2007 - 2:00 PM
- - ScoobyDooCruiser   Also, interesting to note why time was divided usi...   Jul 18, 2007 - 8:44 PM
- - lubu   well i guess there is a more accurate time device....   Jul 23, 2007 - 2:29 PM
- - carb0n_f1b3r   ^^^^^ took me a "second" to get it you...   Jul 23, 2007 - 4:14 PM
- - lubu   QUOTE(carb0n_f1b3r @ Jul 24, 2007 - 5...   Jul 23, 2007 - 4:48 PM


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