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post Jul 22, 2007 - 11:15 AM
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juat wondering what would i need in order to swap the auto climate control from an st202
to an st204...tired of its getting really hot and really cold and adjusting all the time.

found this..

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is that all the stuff i need for the swap??

edit: has basically every thing excep the compressor..and the a/c unit

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post Jul 22, 2007 - 2:25 PM
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ah sorry, thought you meant the other way round.

Good luck. I had a brief look behind the aircon units of both of the types and they looked pretty different. Will probably open them up again this weekend and see whats the difference if you have not found your answer by then.
post Jul 22, 2007 - 4:04 PM
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QUOTE (soven @ Jul 22, 2007 - 8:25 PM) *
ah sorry, thought you meant the other way round.

Good luck. I had a brief look behind the aircon units of both of the types and they looked pretty different. Will probably open them up again this weekend and see whats the difference if you have not found your answer by then.


They are very different. To do the swap you'll need:

* an extra engine bay sensor
* JDM climate control compressor (pump) in the engine bay. It is different to the US/UK one.
* replace the temperature sensor inside the aircon heat exchanger (the middle box behind the glove box)
* a different aircon resistor pack
* an aircon power transistor (not fitted for aircon)
* a light sensor (goes into the top of the dashboard)
* a cabin temperature sensor (goes under the steering wheel)
* an air tube that goes between the cabin air sensor and near the drivers' foot rest
* two short aircon wiring looms
* cabin wiring loom from a donor car with climate control
* different aircon amplifier module
* an extra relay (climate control high speed relay)
* an air vent mode solenoid from donor car (they are different)
* a temperature mix solenoid from donor car (solenoid not fitted in aircon)
* temperature mix actuator cable from donor car (they are different)
* climate control (the unit with switches on that goes in the center console
* climate control ECU (not fitted in aircon, sits on top of the main ECU)

You'll need to completely unplug the cabin wiring loom then remove the arm rest, lower centre console, steering wheel, dashboard. You'll then need to combine your old loom with the donor loom; change over the aircon heat exchanger temperature sensor; run wires to the engine bay sensor; diagnostics connector and compressor; and install the remaining two cabin sensors. Install all the remaining bits, attach the cabin wiring loom to the dashboard again and put everything back together.

In short, the work involved is probably a little short of an engine swap. It isn't really worth the effort involved unless you like a challenge or really really want climate control.

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post Jul 24, 2007 - 6:40 AM
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QUOTE(BloodyStupidDavey @ Jul 23, 2007 - 5:04 AM) [snapback]581213[/snapback]

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They are very different. To do the swap you'll need:

* an extra engine bay sensor
* a light sensor (goes into the top of the dashboard)
* a cabin temperature sensor (goes under the steering wheel)

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with regards to those 3 sensors above...do you know where can i find them...and do you have any pictures?


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post Aug 2, 2007 - 5:52 PM
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QUOTE(lubu @ Jul 24, 2007 - 12:40 PM) [snapback]581820[/snapback]

with regards to those 3 sensors above...do you know where can i find them...and do you have any pictures?


I've given the location in the car for each of them above. You'll need to find a JDM car.

engine bay sensor:
sorry, I don't have a picture of this

light sensor:
IPB Image
^^ middle one in the above image

cabin temperature sensor:
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post Aug 2, 2007 - 6:46 PM
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thx for photos
Where exacly is this sensor in engine bay? My friend has JDM celica so I will look but I don't know how it looks....
And what about wiring? connectors are different.... and I'm not sure how to work it out...
post Aug 3, 2007 - 2:41 AM
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QUOTE(wojtas @ Aug 3, 2007 - 12:46 AM) [snapback]584789[/snapback]

Where exacly is this sensor in engine bay? My friend has JDM celica so I will look but I don't know how it looks....

I don't know. That is the last piece of the puzzle for me. I need to trace the blue/white, yellow and yellow/black wires that go from the cabin into the engine bay. It may be an additional 1-wire or 2-wire sensor or a different existing sensor.

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And what about wiring? connectors are different.... and I'm not sure how to work it out...


As I said above, you'll need to find a donor car, get to the wiring looms and unpick them to seperate the individual wires and connectors you need. It is a big job.

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Plus these two looms:
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Posts in this topic
- lubu   st202 climte control in st204..   Jul 22, 2007 - 11:15 AM
- - soven   Cant you just switch it to self adjusting? I rea...   Jul 22, 2007 - 2:19 PM
- - lubu   lol i dont have that feature..mine is a manual a/c...   Jul 22, 2007 - 2:21 PM
- - soven   ah sorry, thought you meant the other way round. ...   Jul 22, 2007 - 2:25 PM
|- - BloodyStupidDavey   QUOTE (soven @ Jul 22, 2007 - 8:25 P...   Jul 22, 2007 - 4:04 PM
|- - lubu   QUOTE(BloodyStupidDavey @ Jul 23, 2007 ...   Jul 23, 2007 - 1:37 AM
|- - lubu   QUOTE(BloodyStupidDavey @ Jul 23, 2007 ...   Jul 24, 2007 - 6:40 AM
|- - wojtas   I also have problems with connecting climate contr...   Jul 30, 2007 - 6:03 PM
|- - BloodyStupidDavey   QUOTE(lubu @ Jul 24, 2007 - 12:40 PM...   Aug 2, 2007 - 5:52 PM
|- - wojtas   thx for photos Where exacly is this sensor in engi...   Aug 2, 2007 - 6:46 PM
||- - BloodyStupidDavey   QUOTE(wojtas @ Aug 3, 2007 - 12:46 A...   Aug 3, 2007 - 2:41 AM
||- - BloodyStupidDavey   QUOTE (BloodyStupidDavey @ Aug 3, 2007 ...   Jun 2, 2008 - 4:46 PM
|- - lubu   QUOTE(BloodyStupidDavey @ Aug 3, 2007 - ...   Aug 2, 2007 - 11:59 PM
- - soven   ouch. but I must say that the auto adjusting clim...   Jul 22, 2007 - 7:07 PM
- - stud97023   if you can pull this off man, you are a god haha   Aug 3, 2007 - 3:48 PM
- - wojtas   ok. I have everything that goes under dashboard an...   Aug 3, 2007 - 5:00 PM
- - lubu   anyone can help I out?? I need a EWD of the auto c...   Sep 4, 2007 - 6:12 PM
|- - wojtas   same problem Nobody from japan replied to my qu...   Sep 12, 2007 - 7:46 PM
- - stephen_lee   hows this going?   Jun 2, 2008 - 7:18 PM
|- - lubu   QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Jun 3, 2008 - 8...   Jun 2, 2008 - 8:03 PM
|- - BloodyStupidDavey   QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Jun 3, 2008 - 1...   Jun 2, 2008 - 9:47 PM
- - stephen_lee   update ? lol   Mar 5, 2009 - 12:32 AM
|- - BloodyStupidDavey   QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Mar 5, 2009 - 5...   Mar 6, 2009 - 6:09 PM
- - Cavegod   the Gen5 ewd for auto climate is near enough ident...   Aug 16, 2009 - 2:03 PM


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