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post Sep 11, 2007 - 6:13 PM
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So obviously my oil problem is only getting worse, I decided it's finally time to do something about it.

so I went and picked up Defgeph's old 7A...
177,000 miles and was begining to use some oil before he swapped and it sat in the garage for 2 years.
but since I was getting it for free from a friend I decided to pick it up and hope for the best...
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so I picked it up Fri (8/24) and the next day it came with me to work (I work at a Toyota dealer) where they unloaded it into the brake lathe room and it stayed hidden for a while. this past Saturday (9/8) me and one of the techs began tearing it apart. I was pleasantly surprised to find that it is actually in incredibly good condition for its age...

I will be spending close to $500 in parts replacing every bearing, seal, gasket, etc that we can think of. What I need from you guys are your suggestions as to what I can do to make this motor a little stronger and better flowing. I'm keeping the stock pistons and considering bigger cams and having the head machined.

We work for about an hour each morning before customers start coming in. Between Sat, Mon, and Tues (today) we have everything pretty much apart (except for the valves since I haven't decided to send them to the machinist with the head or not yet). This is a huge learning process for me and happy to have the oppotunity to do it. I'll add more pics and info so maybe some of you can learn some things too.

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post Sep 23, 2007 - 8:05 PM
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sorry for the delay on the progress report... that CSP meet was kind of crazy... wink.gif


now for putting the pistons in...
the rod bearings come in sets of 2 and both sides are the same
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on the pistn rod itself there is a hole that matches up with the hole in the bearing, and just like the main bearings there is the little notch that matched up as well...
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on the cap end there is not holes so you just use the little notch to place it in the right orientation...
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then oil up both sides of the bearings
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now if you remember from before the compression and oil control rings stick out a lot
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so you need to use a ring compressor to push them in, the pistons need to be dunked in oil before this step...
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now at this point you want to put in two pistons at a time (either 1 & 4 or 2 & 3) and you are going to want to push them all the way down so make sure the part of the crank the rod sits on is all the way down and straight. then we cleaned off the cylinder walls a little in case anything had gotten in there from it sitting for a while.

double check to make sure the right piston is going into the right cylinder using the stamped numbers on them...
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so with the ring comrpessor still on the piston you place the rod end into the cylinder and use the end of a hammer or something to gently tap the piston down into place. once its out of the ring compressor you put that aside and finish tapping it down while you kind of guide the rod end onto the crankshaft
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the caps are held on by stretch bolts that need to be torqued to 44 ft/lbs then tightened another 90 degrees. so once they are torqued you mark them so you know where to stop after doing the 90 degree turn...
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the cast part of the oil pan is easy, put a crap load of FIPG on and tap it a little with a hammer so it sits properly.
there are a bunch of allen head bolts and some normal ones that go on the inside
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put the little gear and the crank postion sensor back on...
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and thats how it sits right now..
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post Sep 24, 2007 - 9:43 AM
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QUOTE(hurley97 @ Sep 23, 2007 - 8:05 PM) [snapback]598432[/snapback]


double check to make sure the right piston is going into the right cylinder using the stamped numbers on them...
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confused.gif all 4 of my rods have a 2 on them. they are the stock rods too so its not like someone gave me all 4 #2 rods. Are you sure thats how you tell what rod goes in which cylinder?


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post Sep 24, 2007 - 4:54 PM
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QUOTE(Celiracer18 @ Sep 24, 2007 - 10:43 AM) [snapback]598573[/snapback]

QUOTE(hurley97 @ Sep 23, 2007 - 8:05 PM) [snapback]598432[/snapback]


double check to make sure the right piston is going into the right cylinder using the stamped numbers on them...



confused.gif all 4 of my rods have a 2 on them. they are the stock rods too so its not like someone gave me all 4 #2 rods. Are you sure thats how you tell what rod goes in which cylinder?

sorry, I thought I explained it before but I can't find it so I guess I didn't...

when you take the pistons out there will be a number already stamped on them, that lets you know the size of the piston. so on the block there is the set of 5 numbers that pair with the main bearings and on the opposite end a set of 4 numbers that tell the cylinder bore size. so a number 2 on the piston rod would go to a number 2 bore, I had three #2's and one #3. but unless you are getting new pistons you want to make sure the piston you take out of cylinder 1 goes back into cylinder 1, so as you take them out one by one you want to label them somehow, we stamped the number on the blank side (in a different orientation so we could tell the difference)

and yes, the 'M' is a match line


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- hurley97   Stef's 7A-FE Rebuild   Sep 11, 2007 - 6:13 PM
- - jcbass7   My suggestion if you want some seirous power would...   Sep 11, 2007 - 6:26 PM
- - presure2   shave the head a bit, 3 angle valve job, MAYBE a l...   Sep 11, 2007 - 8:21 PM
|- - jcbass7   QUOTE(presure2 @ Sep 11, 2007 - 9:21...   Sep 11, 2007 - 9:13 PM
- - Celiracer18   OOOH BOY!! Ive been looking forward to thi...   Sep 11, 2007 - 9:11 PM
- - cjh4l22   turbo?   Sep 11, 2007 - 9:13 PM
- - xs94st   head swap?   Sep 11, 2007 - 9:29 PM
- - jason   since your prolly gonna have this car as a DD i wo...   Sep 11, 2007 - 9:54 PM
- - Bitter   have it all balanced, that'll make it run alot...   Sep 11, 2007 - 10:35 PM
- - playr158   knife edge the crank. you wana lighten up the bot...   Sep 12, 2007 - 9:17 AM
- - njccmd2002   QUOTE(hurley97 @ Sep 11, 2007 - 7:13...   Sep 12, 2007 - 9:35 AM
- - ILuvMyCelica95   Steff I'm really excited to read this thread a...   Sep 12, 2007 - 9:49 AM
|- - hurley97   QUOTE(ILuvMyCelica95 @ Sep 12, 2007 - 10...   Sep 12, 2007 - 6:28 PM
|- - alltracman78   Damn kid, looks GOOD. You didn't mention any...   Oct 2, 2007 - 7:05 PM
- - xs94st   wow..our engine is tiny. good grief. good luck...   Sep 12, 2007 - 1:07 PM
- - hellsyphon   Awesome, the 7A actually fits in the front seats l...   Sep 12, 2007 - 1:57 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   you can do all thats listed above ^ great suggesti...   Sep 12, 2007 - 3:28 PM
- - playr158   QUOTE(x_itchy_b_x @ Sep 12, 2007 - 4...   Sep 12, 2007 - 3:30 PM
- - Defgeph   I believe she will be building this engine for a t...   Sep 12, 2007 - 3:48 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(Defgeph @ Sep 12, 2007 - 4:48 ...   Sep 12, 2007 - 4:01 PM
|- - hurley97   QUOTE(presure2 @ Sep 12, 2007 - 5:01...   Sep 12, 2007 - 6:13 PM
- - Defgeph   We could have one made. I'd like to make one t...   Sep 12, 2007 - 4:07 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   awesome! thats a pretty big crank, i was surpr...   Sep 12, 2007 - 7:02 PM
- - Defgeph   Thats awesome ! This is a project I have been ...   Sep 12, 2007 - 7:45 PM
- - lagos   im going to take a guess and say you used mobil1, ...   Sep 12, 2007 - 8:25 PM
- - Defgeph   ON A 7A! Are you crazy ? Just used regular s...   Sep 12, 2007 - 9:06 PM
- - 94celicadude   hey, this is very interesting for me cuse i am on ...   Sep 12, 2007 - 9:19 PM
|- - hurley97   QUOTE(94celicadude @ Sep 12, 2007 - 10...   Sep 12, 2007 - 11:58 PM
- - 97lestyousay   I can't wait to see how this turns out. Look...   Sep 12, 2007 - 10:32 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(Defgeph @ Sep 12, 2007 - 10:06...   Sep 12, 2007 - 11:29 PM
- - lagos   stef, i dont know how crazy you want to go with t...   Sep 12, 2007 - 11:39 PM
|- - hurley97   QUOTE(lagos @ Sep 13, 2007 - 12:39 A...   Sep 14, 2007 - 9:02 AM
- - hurley97   to find the size of the main bearings... for the...   Sep 13, 2007 - 12:11 AM
- - giang723   that's looks amazing, makes we wonder why i di...   Sep 13, 2007 - 2:54 AM
- - hurley97   I cleaned and painted the block yesterday... and...   Sep 13, 2007 - 6:08 PM
- - Celiracer18   if your not gonna get the pauters and want a littl...   Sep 13, 2007 - 6:22 PM
- - LewFX   reminds me of rebuilding a cummins engine, same pr...   Sep 13, 2007 - 6:26 PM
- - spolski07   this has to be the most interesting thread ever...   Sep 13, 2007 - 7:19 PM
- - 97lestyousay   I personally would check all parts with a micromet...   Sep 13, 2007 - 7:34 PM
- - jcbass7   Steff this thread is awesome! keep it up   Sep 13, 2007 - 9:26 PM
- - ILuvMyCelica95   Steff i love this i feel like im in class Your pi...   Sep 14, 2007 - 9:12 AM
- - playr158   4ag(z)e head gaskets will work also (i do believE)   Sep 14, 2007 - 9:13 AM
- - hurley97   yes you probably could but the 7A headgasket is me...   Sep 14, 2007 - 10:13 AM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   Stef, good to see that you're on your way with...   Sep 14, 2007 - 11:10 AM
- - Panswed   QUOTEBetween a rebuilt and ported top-end, camshaf...   Sep 14, 2007 - 12:09 PM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   QUOTEas long as the stock rod bolts can take it. ...   Sep 16, 2007 - 4:03 AM
|- - FortuneCookie   QUOTE(Silver94CelicaOwner @ Sep 16, 2007 ...   Sep 17, 2007 - 11:30 AM
|- - hurley97   QUOTE(Silver94CelicaOwner @ Sep 16, 2007 ...   Sep 19, 2007 - 6:51 PM
- - 56willysnut   Nice pics!   Sep 17, 2007 - 9:39 AM
- - Bitter   made sure it all turned good and smooth after the ...   Sep 19, 2007 - 9:16 PM
- - purplegt4   wow are you keeping all the receipts and costs tal...   Sep 19, 2007 - 9:55 PM
- - Defgeph   Looking good.   Sep 19, 2007 - 11:47 PM
- - Coomer   Looks great. I love threads like this.   Sep 19, 2007 - 11:54 PM
- - spolski07   QUOTE(Coomer @ Sep 19, 2007 - 11:54 ...   Sep 19, 2007 - 11:59 PM
- - hurley97   sorry for the delay on the progress report... that...   Sep 23, 2007 - 8:05 PM
|- - Celiracer18   QUOTE(hurley97 @ Sep 23, 2007 - 8:05...   Sep 24, 2007 - 9:43 AM
|- - hurley97   QUOTE(Celiracer18 @ Sep 24, 2007 - 10...   Sep 24, 2007 - 4:54 PM
- - supershannon77   Looking good, nice work.....you impress me   Sep 23, 2007 - 8:13 PM
- - stephen_lee   wow. this thread amazes me. rebuilding doesn't...   Sep 23, 2007 - 8:26 PM
- - playr158   very nice progess.   Sep 23, 2007 - 9:19 PM
- - lagos   HOT! not trying to be an internet mechanic h...   Sep 23, 2007 - 9:40 PM
- - LewFX   for deisels we use gear oil to lube the bearings   Sep 23, 2007 - 9:48 PM
- - playr158   motor oil works fine for putting pistons in, its w...   Sep 23, 2007 - 9:57 PM
- - jcbass7   This is amazing steff, keep it up! I'm sur...   Sep 24, 2007 - 9:23 AM
- - jcbass7   is that a 3 stamped sideways in the middle of the ...   Sep 24, 2007 - 9:47 AM
|- - Celiracer18   QUOTE(jcbass7 @ Sep 24, 2007 - 9:47 ...   Sep 24, 2007 - 11:14 AM
- - 56willysnut   They look like match marks to me, so you don't...   Sep 24, 2007 - 12:40 PM
- - hurley97   now the fun part... the top end we started by...   Sep 26, 2007 - 7:02 PM
- - Bitter   going to cut the valves and seats and then lap the...   Sep 26, 2007 - 8:02 PM
|- - hurley97   QUOTE(Bitter @ Sep 26, 2007 - 9:02 P...   Sep 28, 2007 - 10:50 AM
- - Defgeph   So awesome. Keep it up Steff   Sep 27, 2007 - 10:26 PM
- - kerosene   women with tools are hot ^^ there is no way of say...   Sep 27, 2007 - 11:04 PM
- - ILuvMyCelica95   i think when this is all said and done this should...   Sep 28, 2007 - 10:38 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   outside the car turbo setup is a great idea! h...   Sep 28, 2007 - 10:58 AM
- - playr158   so basically you are rebuilding this motor, putti...   Sep 28, 2007 - 11:03 AM
- - devilsden97   U missed the point dan. shes rebuilding this one,...   Sep 28, 2007 - 11:36 AM
- - playr158   QUOTE(devilsden97 @ Sep 28, 2007 - 12...   Sep 28, 2007 - 12:52 PM
- - hurley97   I plan on keeping the car for a long time. the mot...   Sep 28, 2007 - 1:22 PM
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- - playr158   ah word gotcha cool beans!   Sep 28, 2007 - 1:34 PM
- - hurley97   we cleaned up block and ground out the intake and ...   Sep 29, 2007 - 8:55 PM
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- - celicomx   are the valve seals the same in the exhaust and in...   Oct 2, 2007 - 12:21 PM
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- - celicomx   damn cuz i put all the same valve seals in the int...   Oct 2, 2007 - 4:33 PM
- - hurley97   we re-shimmed the valves today. I have no pictures...   Oct 2, 2007 - 10:16 PM
- - 94celicadude   i like the port jobs youve done on the head, it lo...   Oct 3, 2007 - 6:47 PM
- - hurley97   the head is back on the block, headgasket in place...   Oct 7, 2007 - 9:51 AM
- - 6gcSTVT   steph, How much boost are you going to put this p...   Oct 7, 2007 - 8:13 PM
- - hurley97   probably only about 6-10psi it should last a pret...   Oct 7, 2007 - 10:01 PM
- - lazzyboy121   i just read the entire thread, great work. and i l...   Oct 8, 2007 - 9:33 PM
- - Defgeph   I demand pics !   Oct 9, 2007 - 10:41 PM
- - stephen_lee   ok well the mod said it. you must do it it will a...   Oct 9, 2007 - 10:53 PM
- - hurley97   sorry, I haven't had time to upload and explai...   Oct 10, 2007 - 6:46 PM
- - hurley97   then turn the cams half a revolution (there is a l...   Oct 10, 2007 - 7:01 PM
|- - 97lestyousay   QUOTE(hurley97 @ Oct 10, 2007 - 4:01...   Oct 10, 2007 - 7:07 PM
- - hurley97   GETTING CLOSE!! just putting little thing...   Oct 10, 2007 - 7:22 PM
- - Valo666   looks like every things coming along great there s...   Oct 10, 2007 - 9:00 PM
- - jcbass7   good work stef, can't wait to see this in your...   Oct 11, 2007 - 8:26 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   it turns me on that you know so much. knowledge is...   Oct 11, 2007 - 8:31 AM
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